Bird's Broncos nightmare gets worse

[Maroon4life]

I don’t know the process so maybe someone can clarify whether the broncos staff are allowed to conduct some form of due diligence before signing a player?

I know it isn’t in his best interest to divulge but Bird and his management team probably weren’t all that upfront about the issue either.

 

[Morkel]

I don’t know the process so maybe someone can clarify whether the broncos staff are allowed to conduct some form of due diligence before signing a player?

I know it isn’t in his best interest to divulge but Bird and his management team probably weren’t all that upfront about the issue either.

I'm pretty sure they are allowed to do a physical before signing. It would be insane for any team not to.

 

[Sproj]

It would be insane for any team not to.

So they likely can’t, because NRL.

 

[Jedhead]

No, where did you get this from. Our guys can't do physical's etc. until he is actually our player. Where have you gotten your info? or did you just make this up and worked yourself up about it before posting?

Perhaps the pre-medical is not standard practice in the NRL (if it is not, we must be the laughing stock of every other professional sport in the world) . The Kevvie walkout factor and the Bellamy saga was not 'made up' as you suggest and leaving the Bird saga aside for a moment these two monumental stuff ups are enough to make a once proud club look slipshod at best. The old saying goes that the fish rots from the head downwards. This very much fits the disarray our club is presently going through. To deny everything is peachy is just plain stupid.

 

[Jedhead]

No, where did you get this from. Our guys can't do physical's etc. until he is actually our player. Where have you gotten your info? or did you just make this up and worked yourself up about it before posting?

I'll put the same question back to you. Where does it state the guys are not allowed to do pre-medicals. Just curious.

 

[broncos4life]

Perhaps the pre-medical is not standard practice in the NRL (if it is not, we must be the laughing stock of every other professional sport in the world) . The Kevvie walkout factor and the Bellamy saga was not 'made up' as you suggest and leaving the Bird saga aside for a moment these two monumental stuff ups are enough to make a once proud club look slipshod at best. The old saying goes that the fish rots from the head downwards. This very much fits the disarray our club is presently going through. To deny everything is peachy is just plain stupid.

I never said the Bellamy and Kevvie walkout is made up, not once. In fact if you have read anything I have written about the Bellamy thing I have been highly critical of the whole process. Why don't you read posts instead of making up shit.

 

[Foordy]

This very much fits the disarray our club is presently going through. To deny everything is peachy is just plain stupid.

consequently, to assume the sky is falling because our results on the field aren't where we want them is equally stupid...

we can be sure of one thing though ... none of us nor the media have any idea if there are any issues behind the scenes at the club

 

[Morkel]

Perhaps the pre-medical is not standard practice in the NRL (if it is not, we must be the laughing stock of every other professional sport in the world) . The Kevvie walkout factor and the Bellamy saga was not 'made up' as you suggest and leaving the Bird saga aside for a moment these two monumental stuff ups are enough to make a once proud club look slipshod at best. The old saying goes that the fish rots from the head downwards. This very much fits the disarray our club is presently going through. To deny everything is peachy is just plain stupid.

Of course, one would only draw a conclusion such as yours when they believe:

* "The Kevvie walkout" was due to bad blood and frustrations, instead of Walters simply wanting to concentrate on the Maroons.
* "the Bellamy saga" due to the Broncos having no faith in Bennett, instead of simply looking to the future.
* "the fish rot" actually being a thing, instead of the on-field performances being subject to injuries & lack of pre-seasons for critical players.

For those of us who choose not to believe that the above are absolute truths, things don't actually seem so dire.

 

[Jedhead]

I never said the Bellamy and Kevvie walkout is made up, not once. In fact if you have read anything I have written about the Bellamy thing I have been highly critical of the whole process. Why don't you read posts instead of making up shit.

Temper, temper you still never answered my question.

 

[Jedhead]

Of course, one would only draw a conclusion such as yours when they believe:

* "The Kevvie walkout" was due to bad blood and frustrations, instead of Walters simply wanting to concentrate on the Maroons.
* "the Bellamy saga" due to the Broncos having no faith in Bennett, instead of simply looking to the future.
* "the fish rot" actually being a thing, instead of the on-field performances being subject to injuries & lack of pre-seasons for critical players.

For those of us who choose not to believe that the above are absolute truths, things don't actually seem so dire.

Morkel I get what you are saying an dI agree with you. It's the way teh Bellamy saga has been handled that I'm talking about. Of course they must look to the future, it shoul dbe done with a little more tact and diplomacy used to date though.
Perhaps Kevvie's walk out was simply for th ereasons stated. The way Boyd handled himself over being snubbed by Kevvie and the fact Kevvie never gave Oatsey a courtesy call to say he never made the team seems more than odd to me though.

 

[Nashy]

I don’t know the process so maybe someone can clarify whether the broncos staff are allowed to conduct some form of due diligence before signing a player?

I know it isn’t in his best interest to divulge but Bird and his management team probably weren’t all that upfront about the issue either.

I'm pretty sure the Broncos weren't given the full story on his injuries. There were rumours (Maybe reports) that they were furious at the Bird situation. Something along the lines of the Sharks refused to treat the injury, and he wasn't allowed to head to Brisbane early to start treatment under their care.

 

[Morkel]

Morkel I get what you are saying an dI agree with you. It's the way teh Bellamy saga has been handled that I'm talking about. Of course they must look to the future, it shoul dbe done with a little more tact and diplomacy used to date though.
Perhaps Kevvie's walk out was simply for th ereasons stated. The way Boyd handled himself over being snubbed by Kevvie and the fact Kevvie never gave Oatsey a courtesy call to say he never made the team seems more than odd to me though.

Even in regards to that, the Bellamy thing is only a bad look because someone (I won't speculate who) leaked it to the media. Otherwise this would all be handled behind closed doors, like every other player or coach recruitment normally would.

And you can speculate that Kev snubbed Boyd & Oates due to some unrevealed issue, but it doesn't make it true.

Like I said, people will believe what they want to believe. That's not aimed at you BTW.

 

[Reyter]

meh. I'm fairly certain Jack volunteering to go under the knife again is just a front so Bennett and him can save face.

So you think it's not the doctors or medical staff who want him to go under the knife but Wayne Bennett? Interesting. How much power do you think he has and how much do you wish he had? I wish he would order you undergo a lobotomy.

 

[Jedhead]

Even in regards to that, the Bellamy thing is only a bad look because someone (I won't speculate who) leaked it to the media. Otherwise this would all be handled behind closed doors, like every other player or coach recruitment normally would.

And you can speculate that Kev snubbed Boyd & Oates due to some unrevealed issue, but it doesn't make it true.

Like I said, people will believe what they want to believe. That's not aimed at you BTW.

Losing Hunt to the Dragons (regardless of any sound reasoning. Just the fact the Broncos lost him)
Losing Taylor to the Titans and then fialing to entice him back (again, regardless of the excuses)
Being without a recognised halfback and persisiting with Niko.
Playing a half fit fullback all season.
Kevvie walking out after a full pre-season working with the team after a few weeks into the season (Regardless of the reasons)
The fact Wayne has to publicly state he wants to stay at the Broncos becuase it comes out they are chasing Bellamy.
Then the whole Bird injury saga where one injury was known about (the other which was apparently a congenital defect now seems to be so serious it requires further surgery and possibly means a player takiing up a substabtial slice of our salary cap won't play another game this season)
Each individual issue on its own can occur at any club, when they all take place at our club in half a season I tend to lean towards something being not right at the front end of our administration practices.
The fact the team is playing like a busted ass is neither here nor there. In the 29 years I have watched them there has been many similar situations and we invairably come out the other end and do something spectacular. It's the shody way someone is handling our club's affairs that has me alarmed. I've never seen so much incompetence in such a small space of time than what I am seeing now.

 

[Foordy]

Losing Hunt to the Dragons (regardless of any sound reasoning. Just the fact the Broncos lost him)

If we had have matched the offer to Hunt the people would have used that instead as a reason we are in "disarray"

Losing Taylor to the Titans and then fialing to entice him back (again, regardless of the excuses)

see above

The fact Wayne has to publicly state he wants to stay at the Broncos becuase it comes out they are chasing Bellamy.

He also publicly stated that he suggested we chase Bellamy (or words to that effect)

Kevvie walking out after a full pre-season working with the team after a few weeks into the season (Regardless of the reasons)

That is not as bad as you make it seem... we had him for the entire pre-season working with our halves. the fact the he decided he couldn't commit while preparing for origin doesn't come close to suggesting the club is in disarray ... it may be a different story if it was our head coach.

Then the whole Bird injury saga where one injury was known about (the other which was apparently a congenital defect now seems to be so serious it requires further surgery and possibly means a player takiing up a substabtial slice of our salary cap won't play another game this season)

the fact is that he signed the contract early last year ... we wouldn't be the first club to sign a player only for them to be injured later in the season, and we won't be the last.

Bird is a talented, premiership winning player ... and will be a valuable addition to our squad. we just need to get him fully fit

 

[Morkel]

Losing Hunt to the Dragons (regardless of any sound reasoning. Just the fact the Broncos lost him)
Losing Taylor to the Titans and then fialing to entice him back (again, regardless of the excuses)
Being without a recognised halfback and persisiting with Niko.
Playing a half fit fullback all season.
Kevvie walking out after a full pre-season working with the team after a few weeks into the season (Regardless of the reasons)
The fact Wayne has to publicly state he wants to stay at the Broncos becuase it comes out they are chasing Bellamy.
Then the whole Bird injury saga where one injury was known about (the other which was apparently a congenital defect now seems to be so serious it requires further surgery and possibly means a player takiing up a substabtial slice of our salary cap won't play another game this season)
Each individual issue on its own can occur at any club, when they all take place at our club in half a season I tend to lean towards something being not right at the front end of our administration practices.
The fact the team is playing like a busted ass is neither here nor there. In the 29 years I have watched them there has been many similar situations and we invairably come out the other end and do something spectacular. It's the shody way someone is handling our club's affairs that has me alarmed. I've never seen so much incompetence in such a small space of time than what I am seeing now.

And yet, there are logical circumstances that have lead to each of these situations. Some just choose to ignore them.

It is quite disappointing that all of these have happened in such a short amount of time. I wonder if it's these sort of things that can result in a team not going as well as fans would hope, despite everyone doing their job well, and busting their arses on and off the field?

 

[tommy]

How much power do you think he has and how much do you wish he had?

Not enough. WB should be given the final say on EVERYTHING. And not just at the club either. He should hold the nuclear launch codes to every nuke on Earth and if he decides to use one on a school he should not be questioned. I would gladly have a lobotomy if it was what he wished. He should also be given the title of "Ultimate ruler of the universe and everything in it" and at least 10 times a day everyone should stop what they are doing and give thanks in the form of a prayer for everything he has done and that we have him. I also believe a new day should be added to the week called Bennettday and on these days ppl are to attend special churches that are built in his image to give extra thanks.

 

[Jedhead]

If we had have matched the offer to Hunt the people would have used that instead as a reason we are in "disarray"



see above



He also publicly stated that he suggested we chase Bellamy (or words to that effect)



That is not as bad as you make it seem... we had him for the entire pre-season working with our halves. the fact the he decided he couldn't commit while preparing for origin doesn't come close to suggesting the club is in disarray ... it may be a different story if it was our head coach.



the fact is that he signed the contract early last year ... we wouldn't be the first club to sign a player only for them to be injured later in the season, and we won't be the last.

Bird is a talented, premiership winning player ... and will be a valuable addition to our squad. we just need to get him fully fit

As i said, each issue on its own, does not warrant much thought as it can happen to any club. When they all come in such a short space of time, (indeed I have never seen such an omnishambles in the Broncos' 30 year history as what we are witnessing in the first half of this year) there is something crook in the administration side of our club. I don't believe there is any conspiracy theory and I'm not wishing to drag our club down, but a little more tranparency would be appreciated by the long suffering fans. No wonder their attendences are down.
Re Bird - What do you mean 'injured later in the season'? He was busted from the day he set foot in Red Hill. Fair play to the guy he has tried to repay some of the cash by playing injured and by trying to fit into any position Benny has asked him, but we all know how that has ended.