Porthoz
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Did you forget Jarrod Wallace on purpose? :p
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Thelmus
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Bird would have to be used as a back utility until he is fit. He's built like Opacic, so could fill the same kind of role. When he is fit, they simply swap. Next year he moves to lock. Opacic fills his spot. That would be my choice. I'd be happy for Bird to prove fitness in q cup for a game too. Too many of our regulars seem to get rushed straight into the team from injury. Boyd seems to be paying for that mistake and has done so in the past as well.
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Kyall
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I would also take Lodge and TPJ starting over them any day of the week anyway.
Danoz Direct
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To make this team the best it can be I think Birds best spot is centre, doesn't mean he can't go all over the field, but I just like having a deadly centre combo of him and Roberts.
Wolfie
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I dont reckon we can afford a left center who will roam and end up being out of position at times tbh. We suffered badly with Moga and his poor defence last season, our left side defence was a real issue.
I just dont think our left side defence is strong enough and disciplined enough to let him play that way. Dont get me wrong, they would be pretty potent in attack, especially combined with Milf, i'd just worry we may leave ourselves a bit exposed. Be interesting to see though, there is no way he is here to play as a traditional left center so what you suggest is more than feasible. I think its fairly common knowledge he was to get on the ball more than he did at cronulla
Wolfie
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At the moment, Arrow is proving just as effective really. They are all young players who have to perform to the levels they are setting week in week out. I'd much rather have seen us keep Arrow over Offa tbh.
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Lockysillegitimatechild
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I'd much rather arrow or ese ese over ofa as well. Neither of them would get anywhere near TPJ or lodge for sheer potential though, nowhere near. What gets done with that potential is the risk we are taking, but by the looks of it these 2 have the right attitude to fulfil it.
We needed scary /aggressive players in our pack and arrow or ese don't exactly strike fear into the opposition compared to TPJ and lodge. We couldn't get in to a bidding war to keep them and they needed to get sacrificed to bring in what we needed for the squad
Wolfie
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Arrow doesnt have the explosiveness of TPJ, but you cant have a forward pack built on blokes like TPJ either, you need the workhorses who get the job done and dont have many errors in their game ( not saying Lodge or TPJ have many errors though ), i dont think we are going to have a pack like in the past when we could have Webcke, Petero, Thorn, Carroll, Parker and Thaiday to call on. Cant argue though we had to lose some people and we probably lost a couple of forwards who are better than whats here now to balance the books.
Must admit i wouldnt say Arrow is nowhere near the other two either. We didnt see anywhere near the best of him in a Broncos jersey. I honestly think he will be a Queensland player in 2 years time.
I also dont think we are going to see Lodge here in 2 or 3 years time either if im totally honest. I actually wouldnt be surprised if he leaves at the end of the year.
Danoz Direct
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I think our star workhorse forwards will be guys like Carrigan and Flegler in a couple of years.
Wolfie
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I love how Carrigan plays. He is just tough.
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Lockysillegitimatechild
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Agree, we can't have a team full of explosive players. But solid workhorses come along a lot more often then players with talent, size and aggression like the other 2. Sacrifices had to be made with players. From all reports Carrigan is a like for like with arrow, it's a risk but one worth taking I think.
Whilst I think arrow is and will become a great first grader, the fact he could become an origin player for Queensland in 2-3 years says more about Queenslands depth in the young forwards rather then his outstanding talent. TPJ would be in the Queensland team this year if he was a Queenslander, and Wallace wouldn't have gotten near a nsw jersey last year. Not saying nsw is a better pack though because as a pack Queensland plays above its potential and as a team in origin whereas nsw forwards play selfish. The benefit for the players is they grow from playing origin, it then helps the clubs they play for...
I agree about lodge... but hopefully we get another 2 years out of him then haas starts to fulfil his potential. Tbh, it would be incredibly short sighted of lodge to leave us. He hangs out with a bad crowd in Sydney, , and it would only be a matter of time before he got in to a situation.
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Well you guys all know how much I rate Arrow and how disappointed I was to lose him but it is what it is, you really can't keep them all unfortunately. That said, I think the Broncs have had so many promising young forwards in the last few years, the production line is not bare that's for sure. The problem is clearly in the dearth of backs and halves being identified and retained.
As for Joffa, I think he is getting a bit of a raw deal to be honest. I think he has been going very well in the last half of last year and this week. Week 1 was a bit of a blip but he wasn't the only one. I would love to see him get the opportunity to take Lodge's place IF he leaves. Flegler and Carrigan look like workhorse guns of the future and let's not forget Haas who seems to have an extremely rare combination of power and endurance. Haas and TPJ is going to be potentially like having two Taumolololos, not a bad position to be in there.
As for Joffa, I think he is getting a bit of a raw deal to be honest. I think he has been going very well in the last half of last year and this week. Week 1 was a bit of a blip but he wasn't the only one. I would love to see him get the opportunity to take Lodge's place IF he leaves. Flegler and Carrigan look like workhorse guns of the future and let's not forget Haas who seems to have an extremely rare combination of power and endurance. Haas and TPJ is going to be potentially like having two Taumolololos, not a bad position to be in there.
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WASSHHH
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If he has been putting up those same numbers come round 26, you might be right, but that remains to be seen.
Don’t get me wrong, there is no doubting he’s a good player, but we have some promising juniors coming through. If only 1 or 2 of them reach the potential we keep hearing about, we’ll be OK.
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WASSHHH
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Don’t forget Fifita, who is still very raw but didn’t look out of place in the trial matches, which is no mean feat for a backrower playing against men after graduating grade 12 only 100 or so days earlier.
Jason Simmons
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How many forwards can we have in the squad? Everyone hereabouts is calling for a team filled with Lodge, TPJ, Moose, Gillett, Offa, Haas, Su’a, Flegler, Carrigan and Fifita just off the top of my head.
Whether they want it or not Glenn will be here for a few more years, how much more depth can we carry? I guess Sims could make way for Arrow, but Sims is already contracted, Arrow wasn’t...
Super Freak
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If Bennett had a crystal ball, I'm sure he would have fought harder to kept Arrow.
But he doesn't, unfortunately. Arrow's performances for the Broncos, even as a starter, didn't justify the price tag.
You win some, you lose some. It is what it is. We have plenty of promising forwards coming through the ranks that will be better than Arrow.
But he doesn't, unfortunately. Arrow's performances for the Broncos, even as a starter, didn't justify the price tag.
You win some, you lose some. It is what it is. We have plenty of promising forwards coming through the ranks that will be better than Arrow.
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Sanjit Joseph
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Hi.
Could someone pls post the courier mail article on jack bird ( causality ward). Apparently he could return round 3
Could someone pls post the courier mail article on jack bird ( causality ward). Apparently he could return round 3
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wondering what the likelihood of Jack Bird to 1, Darius to left centre is over the next year or two? Bird has publically stated he wants to play 1 or 6, can't see him displacing the Milf, and we all know Darius isn't what he used to be.
