2019 Broncos Line-up

ivanhungryjak said:
Just on this, a mill over three years is 330K a year. Sure, it's big money for a young bloke but hardly huge money like the headline says. Wasn't JNik on 300K at the Roosters?
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For someone who has never played first grade, it's ridiculous money. I've never seen him play, he must be good.

Or else the offer was nowhere near that and it's just the journos giving themselves and opposition fans more ammo for their eventual whinges about how we never lose anyone no matter how much money they are offered and we must be cheating.
 
Big Pete said:
Darius Boyd, Adam Blair, James Gavet, Joe Boyce, Travis Waddell vs. Shaun Fensom, Richard Kennar

I don't know about that.
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Pretty sure Cult was being sarcastic. This is the team Bennett put together. He may not have signed the young crop of players but he seems to have developed them right, eased them in to first grade and got them learning the basics instead of just throwing it around. It’s poignant that arguably the most talented one (TPJ), the one that has been given a longer leash, is the one that struggled most for consistency.
 
Morkel said:
Pretty sure Cult was being sarcastic. This is the team Bennett put together. He may not have signed the young crop of players but he seems to have developed them right, eased them in to first grade and got them learning the basics instead of just throwing it around. It’s poignant that arguably the most talented one (TPJ), the one that has been given a longer leash, is the one that struggled most for consistency.
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My point was that actually Wayne did make some significant changes over the off-season in 2014/15.

Apparently it wasn't a good one.
 
For reference, I believe the Bulldogs signed Klemmer on a 3-year deal before he’d played first grade. Can’t remember the exact amount, but it was like $800k or $1m over those 3 years, which was massive at the time.
 
Lockysillegitimatechild said:
I want to keep them all but if you scaled the level of importance the player resigning were I would put milford, Haas and definetly David fifita junior along with the pick of dearden/boyd/paix in tier 1. These all have the undeniable potential to be once in a generation players. Whether they do or not is upto the coaching staff and environment we place around them, along with a little bit of luck. Haas and fifita junior have the potential to change the game with their talent, but more importantly they have the attitudes to match. Milford is sooo close to being the complete half it's ridiculous, if you put last year's game together with his running game he will be, he has just not put both together yet. Those young halves I put in the top tier on pure hype tbh, but as broncos fans we now know how rare and precious a great halfback is. The others you listed there I'd put in tier 2 along with Roberts and Lodge, then the rest surplus. All great players and we would feel the hit but not players who would drag us by our shoe laces to a premiership like those top tier players look to have the potential for.

Also, on carrigan..... I get he may well be great but to put him in fifita junior's class, or even haas', AT THIS STAGE is laughable. He may prove me wrong, but Haas and fifita junior are athletes that are just freakish, they are 18-19 and they looked like men playing with boys at times, in the bloody nrl! And they have great attitudes, and seem to be passionate about the broncos as a massive bonus (carrigan also seems to have this tbf). Even though haas didnt get much game time in his 3 games, I re watched his debut the other day. He changed the game! Souths were on top of us at the time he came on, his energy got us a repeat set, pinned them in their end, and got our forwards rolling. A bloody 18 year old, on debut, in the prop position, incredible in hindsight!.

Staggs is another that some others probably think would be a tier 1 but no way until he improves his defence. His attack is unreal but no better then birds in his 2016 season, and his defence is shocking at times.

TPJ is based purely what I have heard from him so far and his brain explosions. He can destroy a team on his own and has amazing talent and athleticism but those brain explosions can cost more premierships then he could ever win us on his own...
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I don't think Patty is going to be as spectacular as Fifita or Haas, but he is going to be a more important player for us in the long term I believe. He is a leader and inspires people. I have no doubts when there are tough spells in games he will always stand up. He is our new Webcke imo, not in his style of play, but in his attitude and reliability.
 
Tom said:
Whatever happened to Ash Taylor? How come nobody wants him anymore? Where did he end up?
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he sent his career backwards by going to one of the jokes of the league ... if he had backed himself and stuck with us he would be the incumbent QLD halfback right now
 
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Foordy said:
he sent his career backwards by going to one of the jokes of the league ... if he had backed himself and stuck with us he qould be the incumbent QLD halfback right now
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I don't think he had much choice. Play ISC or go to the Titans and starting halfback position. Bennett chose Hunt, told Taylor to go for it with the Titans... Hunt ***** us over and here we are. I think it all worked out for the better anyway, I don't rate either player anymore and am glad to see both of them down the road.
 
Foordy said:
he sent his career backwards by going to one of the jokes of the league ... if he had backed himself and stuck with us he qould be the incumbent QLD halfback right now
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Not with Walters as coach... But he would be a far better player with consistent big games, including finals, under his belt. .
 
ivanhungryjak said:
Just on this, a mill over three years is 330K a year. Sure, it's big money for a young bloke but hardly huge money like the headline says. Wasn't JNik on 300K at the Roosters?
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He knocked em back so he agrees. Don’t know why they made the effort.
 
Wolfie said:
I don't think Patty is going to be as spectacular as Fifita or Haas, but he is going to be a more important player for us in the long term I believe. He is a leader and inspires people. I have no doubts when there are tough spells in games he will always stand up. He is our new Webcke imo, not in his style of play, but in his attitude and reliability.
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I can't emphasize how important it is to have at least one player like that. We used to have four like that, Webcke, Civo, Locky and Hodgo. Never beaten stand up guys.
 
After tonight's trial, I think you'll find Turpin is surprisingly good odds to make the bench on the semi regular this year. Staggs goes down with an injury and he's automatically in.
 
I bleed Maroon said:
After tonight's trial, I think you'll find Turpin is surprisingly good odds to make the bench on the semi regular this year. Staggs goes down with an injury and he's automatically in.
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But can he cover multiple positions though like Staggs? Seibold wanted a player who could cover the whole back line.
 
1910 said:
Taueli- contract terminated and off to jail for two years.
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Another waste of talent. It can get really depressing seeing these people more ability than the rest of us put together throw it in the bin for some short term satisfaction. And there's been so many, especially this off-season.
 
https://www.zerotackle.com/will-the-young-broncos-pack-perform-40576/#
Will the young Broncos pack perform?
On paper the Broncos have one of the best young packs in the game. But can they live up to the hype?
Angus Simpson
February 17, 2019 - 11:12 am
Following the departures of three regulars in their forward pack, namely Josh McGuire, Korbin Sims and Sam Thaiday, the young Broncos pack heads into the new season with plenty to prove.
Although the Broncos are losing 625 games of first-grade experience, the turnover is necessary and has been done with one eye firmly on the future.
In spite of the fact that Josh McGuire has been a brilliant servant for the Broncos and has a fantastic output, his abrasive and physical style of play is only sustainable for a certain amount of time.T he fact that he is heading into his 11th full season of NRL means that the clock is ticking on his NRL career.
Sam Thaiday has similarly been a fantastic and loyal servant to the Broncos, but father time had well and truly caught up with big Sam by the time he decided to hang up the boots.
Korbin Sims is similarly no slouch, having been selected in the QAS emerging Maroons squad as recently as 2016. But it would make no financial sense to invest salary cap space into someone that is older and has a lower ceiling than other middle forward rotation options such as Payne Haas, David Fifita and Patrick Carrigan.
The common theme amongst the three aforementioned departing players is that they could all do a fantastic job for the Broncos if they continued on at Red Hill, but the young men taking their spots all have the potential to be 10-year Broncos and forge representative careers at the highest level.
In terms of those that will be in Broncos colours in 2019, this is where it gets exciting for the Brisbane faithful. As they look set to go into the new season with a forward rotation consisting of Alex Glenn, David Fifita, Jaydn Su’A, Joe Ofahengaue, Matt Gillett, Matt Lodge, Payne Haas, and Tevita Pangai Junior. With Kotoni Staggs expected to feature as a utility back off the bench. Between those men, they have an average age of 23.
Of those eight forwards previously mentioned, you would argue that five (Glenn, Pangai Junior, Ofahengaeu, Gillett and Lodge) are proven performers at the top level, due to them being older, more experienced and consistently having above average output. Leaving Su’A, Fifita, and Haas to pick up the slack left by the three experienced campaigners who have departed.
Su’A is the most experienced of the three, having racked up 23 appearances across two seasons in his young career, with a majority of those coming from the bench. While Matt Gillett has a mortgage on the number 12 jersey, Su’A has the chance this pre-season to lock himself in as the Broncos other starting back-rower, and if his performances as a starter last season are anything to go by Broncos fans should be very excited.
Prior to an ankle injury that prematurely ended his season, Su’A had started ten games in a row. It resulted in an impressive return of 98.9 run meters per game, 27.2 tackles per game and 14 tackle breaks. For context in his last full NRL season in 2017, Matt Gillett (who is widely regarded as the games premier second rower) averaged 95.1 meters per game.
Fifita is the second most experienced of the trio, having made 11 appearances in his first NRL season. After his debut in round 16 against Canberra, Fifita impressed the coaching staff so much that he remained in the team for the rest of the season. His performances in the remaining games displayed that he was no slouch, putting up numbers that any experienced forward would be proud of. Averaging 100 running meters per game, recording a tackle efficiency of 88.4%, as well as claiming two tries. Following the departures of middlemen McGuire and Thaiday, Fifita has the opportunity to cement himself in the Broncos pack for years to come.
Haas is the last and least experienced of the rookie trio, having only played three NRL games to date. Yet he has the most hype around him, which may have something to do with the six-year $3 million deal he signed back in July. But his brief outings in the NRL have indicated he will live up to his substantial salary. Particularly displayed during a brutal twenty-minute cameo on debut, in which he racked up 86 running meters. Additionally, in terms of raw physical potential and representative pedigree, Haas is head and shoulders above other players his age. The Newcastle junior has captained NSW in the under 18s and tips the scales at an incredible 119 kg. It’s scary to think that the 194cm monster could still have more growing to do.
In terms of the older guard, you know what you are going to get from Gillett and Glenn, no-nonsense with long minutes and consistently above average tackle and running meters a hallmark of both of their games.
Whilst maturing tyros Ofahengaue, Lodge and Pangai Junior are all coming off the best seasons of their young careers. With Pangai Junior and Lodge now the subject of Origin speculation, and Ofahengaue now a regular feature in the Tongan team off the back of a bumper season in which he averaged 117.2 running meters and 27.1 tackles per game. For context, Leeson Ah Mau, who was widely regarded as one of if not the finest bench player in the competition last year, was averaging 111.8 running meters and 24.3 tackles per game.
If the in-experienced quartet of Fifita, Haas, and Su’A can live up to the hype and level of performance they have previously demonstrated, and the remainder of the forward pack can remain consistent on their output from last season, it should be a good year to be a Broncos fan.
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It will indeed be a good year to be a Bronco fan - bring it on baby.
 
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