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He’s loyal to his family I can’t begrudge him for that.

He didn’t bend over for some useless fucking unit who seem to be doing just a fantastic job of upholding the integrity of the game. And the club bent over themselves to the media last year and now this rank overreaction to a bloke who stayed out of a blue that his brother was in
 
No he's being punished for not helping them investigate. A more mature response would be this is what I saw and I know my brother did the wrong thing I am working with him to fix this and I know he's been suspended twice.......

Let's fix this behaviour.

I wonder if he'd be sitting out games if he'd taken that approach......

4 weeks and $20,000 , it's farcical. Fine the kid or drop him for a game.
 
He's not legally obligated to say anything, but he is contractually obligated. The same contract that nets him a cool $3 million.

He might by looking out for his brother, but maybe his dickhead brother should be looking out for Payne too.

I agree with this but the punishment is way too steep.
 
Seriously, that was a waste of time. I know no more than I did half an hour ago.
 
Further, he stayed out of a fight his brother was in. I’m not a violent bloke but if my brother is in a fight I’m throwing hands. He showed a level of maturity for a 19 year old and he’s being punished. He’d have been better laying it on a couple of blokes and being suspended for 6 if staying out of a fight gets you 4. **** me dead.
 
Further, he stayed out of a fight his brother was in. I’m not a violent bloke but if my brother is in a fight I’m throwing hands. He showed a level of maturity for a 19 year old and he’s being punished. He’d have been better laying it on a couple of blokes and being suspended for 6 if staying out of a fight gets you 4. **** me dead.

You don't get it do you. He's not getting in trouble for what happened to his family or anyone. He's in trouble because he didn't talk to the integrity unit when he was asked to.
 
You don't get it do you. He's not getting in trouble for what happened to his family or anyone. He's in trouble because he didn't talk to the integrity unit when he was asked to.

And that’s worth $20k and 4 weeks?
 
You don't get it do you. He's not getting in trouble for what happened to his family or anyone. He's in trouble because he didn't talk to the integrity unit when he was asked to.
And why should he have to after he was cleared of all wrongdoing. It should have ended there as far as he was concerned.
 
And why should he have to after he was cleared of all wrongdoing. It should have ended there as far as he was concerned.

It might say in his contract with the NRL that he has to. It might be a club policy that he has to. The club might have said to him that morning "You have to".

There is no timeline for you to actually know when he was cleared, and when the NRL requested to find out what happened. The issue is, he denied them that. He could have said "I didn't do anything, I didn't see it" but he didn't. He refused.

If you were involved in an incident out of work, and people were able to ID you as being a known person in Company X, you best believe HR are getting involved to make sure you aren't dragging the company and their name through the mud.
 
It might say in his contract with the NRL that he has to. It might be a club policy that he has to. The club might have said to him that morning "You have to".

There is no timeline for you to actually know when he was cleared, and when the NRL requested to find out what happened. The issue is, he denied them that. He could have said "I didn't do anything, I didn't see it" but he didn't. He refused.

If you were involved in an incident out of work, and people were able to ID you as being a known person in Company X, you best believe HR are getting involved to make sure you aren't dragging the company and their name through the mud.

You’re fabricating things to prove a point. I’m just going off what we do know and that is that he did nothing wrong
 
You’re fabricating things to prove a point. I’m just going off what we do know and that is that he did nothing wrong
If the same thing happened at my work hr would want to talk with me. If I spoke tp them and said I was just there, not in any fight or involved at all I'd be fine. If I refused to talk to them about it there'd be disciplinary action taken.
 
You’re fabricating things to prove a point. I’m just going off what we do know and that is that he did nothing wrong

I'm not fabricating anything. You need to go to bed mate, you're not thinking.

He didn't speak to the IU. He DID do that wrong. Fact.
 
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You don't get it do you. He's not getting in trouble for what happened to his family or anyone. He's in trouble because he didn't talk to the integrity unit when he was asked to.
Pretty sure White said that's not true. The story that he didn't talk to them is incorrect.
 
I just hope he takes it positively. I'd hate to lose him because he feels like he's been wronged.

Personally - not a fan of the Broncos doubling the recommended punishments from the NRL. 4 weeks and 20k is too much.
He didn't bring the game into disrepute - he just didn't follow the rules.

Seems a bit rough for a first offense (assuming it was a first offense).
 

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