NRL Season Recommencing

So home advantage goes out the window for some of the teams then? Regardless of fans being present or not, I'd rather play in my home stadium than away. And if the outside teams are expected to live out of a hotel for some months, surely this is going to skew the competition. Being away from family and friends and your normal routine would wear thin after a while I'm sure.
 
broncos4life said:
The players will have a choice. The play and get paid or they stay at home and don't, pretty simple.

I understand your point and you have made it clearly, I simply cannot agree with it. People in all forms of live need to make sacrifices, some voluntarily, some forced. These players have the choice to make the sacrifice or not so what is the big deal?
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Why are they being asked to do it is my issue, not that they shouldn't make some sacrifices. I dont believe the NRL want it started for the players or fans benefit, or for the good of the game, they simply need money.

It's not really much of a choice is it though for some players in certain situations imo.
 
I actually think it is in everyone’s best interest that games are played sooner rather than later players especially,if the season doesn’t go ahead they give up 5 months salary right?
 
Wolfie said:
Why are they being asked to do it is my issue, not that they shouldn't make some sacrifices. I dont believe the NRL want it started for the players or fans benefit, or for the good of the game, they simply need money.

It's not really much of a choice is it though for some players in certain situations imo.
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Well they are a business, most businesses I know exist to make money and do things because they need money. If they have taken precautions to be able to do their thing without any higher risk than already present what's the issue?

I also don't agree that it is purely for the money. I am sure it would be the main part but there are many other factors. Aren't the players on greatly reduced salary and would be for the rest of the year if the season doesn't restart? Also, how beneficial do you think it is to professional sports players to spend a year without playing their sport both physically and mentally? What of the impacts to the fans without their football at the moment? Plenty of fans could take or leave it and move on to other things, where just as much if not more rely on it for something to look forward to and a release. Add to all of this the national and international exposure it will give the game if we are playing when most sports around the world are not.
 
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broncos4life said:
Well they are a business, most businesses I know exist to make money and do things because they need money. If they have taken precautions to be able to do their thing without any higher risk than already present what's the issue?

I also don't agree that it is purely for the money. I am sure it would be the main part but there are many other factors. Aren't the players on greatly reduced salary and would be for the rest of the year if the season doesn't restart? Also, how beneficial do you think it is to professional sports players to spend a year without playing their sport both physically and mentally? What of the impacts to the fans without their football at the moment? Plenty of fans could take or leave it and move on to other things, where just as much if not more rely on it for something to look forward to and a release. Add to all of this the national and international exposure it will give the game if we are playing when most sports around the world are not.
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Yep, they are in it to make money, but so is the family run cafe who can't open their doors and employ staff because of social distancing. The players are in the same boat as every else who is hit financially, and its not good for anyone. Sportsmen shouldn't be treated any differently to the normal people in the world.

If the NRL was run better, they would be in a better position financially to cope, and that's the major reason behind their push to restart. They are desperate. The game should start again when it's safe to do so. We aren't at that stage yet as social distancing is still in place. You cant play a game of footy and stay 1.5m apart. When that's allowed, then that's when the game restarts imo.
 
Wolfie said:
Yep, they are in it to make money, but so is the family run cafe who can't open their doors and employ staff because of social distancing. The players are in the same boat as every else who is hit financially, and its not good for anyone. Sportsmen shouldn't be treated any differently to the normal people in the world.

If the NRL was run better, they would be in a better position financially to cope, and that's the major reason behind their push to restart. They are desperate. The game should start again when it's safe to do so. We aren't at that stage yet as social distancing is still in place. You cant play a game of footy and stay 1.5m apart. When that's allowed, then that's when the game restarts imo.
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So are you suggesting that the family run cafe you are talking about wouldn't re-open if they had permission to and could do so in a safe, quarantined environment?

In terms of the social distancing that is not a concern in a quarantined environment with players that are confirmed to be non-infected.
 
Wolfie said:
Yep, they are in it to make money, but so is the family run cafe who can't open their doors and employ staff because of social distancing. The players are in the same boat as every else who is hit financially, and its not good for anyone. Sportsmen shouldn't be treated any differently to the normal people in the world.

If the NRL was run better, they would be in a better position financially to cope, and that's the major reason behind their push to restart. They are desperate. The game should start again when it's safe to do so. We aren't at that stage yet as social distancing is still in place. You cant play a game of footy and stay 1.5m apart. When that's allowed, then that's when the game restarts imo.
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There can be exceptions to the distancing rule though. The NRL just need to show that they are doing other things over and above the norm. Going into camp, excluding players and staff over and above the general population etc.
If the 1.5 metre rule is the bar to be set, why are barbers operating?
 
Wolfie said:
Yep, they are in it to make money, but so is the family run cafe who can't open their doors and employ staff because of social distancing. The players are in the same boat as every else who is hit financially, and its not good for anyone. Sportsmen shouldn't be treated any differently to the normal people in the world.

If the NRL was run better, they would be in a better position financially to cope, and that's the major reason behind their push to restart. They are desperate. The game should start again when it's safe to do so. We aren't at that stage yet as social distancing is still in place. You cant play a game of footy and stay 1.5m apart. When that's allowed, then that's when the game restarts imo.
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You have to weigh up the greater good in things like this though.

If the NRL can demonstrate a way to operate in total isolation and keep the safety of their employees at the forefront of everything they do, then yes, there would still be a very small level of risk of infection, but the reality is that these are healthy young men who have a negligible risk of serious complications, and virtually no chance of spreading it outside their playing group if they have been correctly isolated.

Then the payoff for taking this very small and calculated risk is that it provides significant entertainment value for a large number of people who have already been locked down for several weeks and will no doubt be reaching a tipping point for many in how they are handling this level of isolation. If NRL being played and broadcast can help encourage a significant number of people to both stay at home, as well as cope better when they are home, then you might find the very small level of risk is justified in the potential reward.

The Romans certainly knew the value of keeping the population fed and entertained, and in this day and age it really is still no different.
 
Scomo has just confirmed the season will start again on May 28 and with his approval . Who would have thought we'd ever see footy again this winter? But then again, who would have thought that Australia would contain this virus as well as it has? Hats off to the leaders and it's residents for such a successful outcome. It certainly helps being a giant island but if not for quick action, it could have ravaged this nation. Thank god it'll be back soon because it has been a bizarre autumn without it.
 
ivanhungryjak said:
There can be exceptions to the distancing rule though. The NRL just need to show that they are doing other things over and above the norm. Going into camp, excluding players and staff over and above the general population etc.
If the 1.5 metre rule is the bar to be set, why are barbers operating?
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Fair point
 
broncos4life said:
So are you suggesting that the family run cafe you are talking about wouldn't re-open if they had permission to and could do so in a safe, quarantined environment?

In terms of the social distancing that is not a concern in a quarantined environment with players that are confirmed to be non-infected.
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I think they would if they have permission to do so, but at the same time why should the NRL get special treatment over all the bars, restaurants and cafes? They shouldnt be a special case, and it appears they are getting treated as such. If the NRL had the money in the bank to ride this out, the season wouldnt be starting until we got fans back in the stadiums because without the fans we are basically seeing ( and i've heard this from a few players i've spoken to ) glorified training sessions. The NRL simply should have to abide by the same rules as everyone else imo. They are no more important than anybody i have mentioned.

We still need some specifics as well about it all ( which have been light on the ground so far ). Are NSW based players going to have to be quarantined away from their families? I'd say to keep things safe they would need to be because if not, there is a big flaw in the system as the NRL have no jurisdiction over what they do. The other issue i heard today from some doctor on the radio which could also be a problem is what happens if a player ( god forbid ) gets a really bad injury and needs an ambulance and paramedics and doctors. Are the NRL going to have an ambulance, paramedics and a doctor quarantined with the players, refs, coaches, groundsmen etc? If they dont, your system has a flaw in it, abliet it would be a small one, but could still have impact.
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kooly87 said:
You have to weigh up the greater good in things like this though.

If the NRL can demonstrate a way to operate in total isolation and keep the safety of their employees at the forefront of everything they do, then yes, there would still be a very small level of risk of infection, but the reality is that these are healthy young men who have a negligible risk of serious complications, and virtually no chance of spreading it outside their playing group if they have been correctly isolated.

Then the payoff for taking this very small and calculated risk is that it provides significant entertainment value for a large number of people who have already been locked down for several weeks and will no doubt be reaching a tipping point for many in how they are handling this level of isolation. If NRL being played and broadcast can help encourage a significant number of people to both stay at home, as well as cope better when they are home, then you might find the very small level of risk is justified in the potential reward.

The Romans certainly knew the value of keeping the population fed and entertained, and in this day and age it really is still no different.
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Thats the thing, we need the details. I think the total isolation thing is going to be the hard part.
 
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Wolfie said:
If the NRL had the money in the bank to ride this out, the season wouldnt be starting until we got fans back in the stadiums
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I doubt this will happen before a vaccine is in place and/or most people have built immunity to this disease.
 
Porthoz said:
I doubt this will happen before a vaccine is in place and/or most people have built immunity to this disease.
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I agree. I think its a horrible experience with no fans in the stadiums. Origin would be an absolute joke if it went ahead with no supporters there.
 
Wolfie said:
I think they would if they have permission to do so, but at the same time why should the NRL get special treatment over all the bars, restaurants and cafes? They shouldnt be a special case, and it appears they are getting treated as such. If the NRL had the money in the bank to ride this out, the season wouldnt be starting until we got fans back in the stadiums because without the fans we are basically seeing ( and i've heard this from a few players i've spoken to ) glorified training sessions. The NRL simply should have to abide by the same rules as everyone else imo. They are no more important than anybody i have mentioned.

We still need some specifics as well about it all ( which have been light on the ground so far ). Are NSW based players going to have to be quarantined away from their families? I'd say to keep things safe they would need to be because if not, there is a big flaw in the system as the NRL have no jurisdiction over what they do. The other issue i heard today from some doctor on the radio which could also be a problem is what happens if a player ( god forbid ) gets a really bad injury and needs an ambulance and paramedics and doctors. Are the NRL going to have an ambulance, paramedics and a doctor quarantined with the players, refs, coaches, groundsmen etc? If they dont, your system has a flaw in it, abliet it would be a small one, but could still have impact.
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Thats the thing, we need the details. I think the total isolation thing is going to be the hard part.
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I’ve never understood the comparison between the NRL recommencing and restaurants bars and cafes. The NRL can put measures in place to isolate itself from the public, restaurants bars and cafes can’t.

Also, the way I see it is the NRL are just a workplace trying to work out a way to re open. Restaurants bars and cafes should all have the same opportunity if they can prove that they can put appropriate controls in place.
 
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Viti said:
I’ve never understood the comparison between the NRL recommencing and restaurants bars and cafes. The NRL can put measures in place to isolate itself from the public, restaurants bars and cafes can’t.
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They can, but will they. Like i said, if the NSW players can go home to their families, the quarantine isnt reliable, so the plan would have to be thrown out of the window. For it to work it has to be a one in, all in policy.

Bars and restaurants ( some of them anyway ) would be big enough to separate customers so the risk would be reduced. Social distancing and keeping people to very small groups is what has this thing under control. Seems a bit silly to me to take any risks with anything right now. Its just a game of footy. Its not the end of the world if it stops for a while.
 
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Wolfie said:
I think they would if they have permission to do so, but at the same time why should the NRL get special treatment over all the bars, restaurants and cafes? They shouldnt be a special case, and it appears they are getting treated as such. If the NRL had the money in the bank to ride this out, the season wouldnt be starting until we got fans back in the stadiums because without the fans we are basically seeing ( and i've heard this from a few players i've spoken to ) glorified training sessions. The NRL simply should have to abide by the same rules as everyone else imo. They are no more important than anybody i have mentioned.

We still need some specifics as well about it all ( which have been light on the ground so far ). Are NSW based players going to have to be quarantined away from their families? I'd say to keep things safe they would need to be because if not, there is a big flaw in the system as the NRL have no jurisdiction over what they do. The other issue i heard today from some doctor on the radio which could also be a problem is what happens if a player ( god forbid ) gets a really bad injury and needs an ambulance and paramedics and doctors. Are the NRL going to have an ambulance, paramedics and a doctor quarantined with the players, refs, coaches, groundsmen etc? If they dont, your system has a flaw in it, abliet it would be a small one, but could still have impact.
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Thats the thing, we need the details. I think the total isolation thing is going to be the hard part.
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They aren’t getting special treatment. To be exempt they need to meet certain criteria to keep the public safe which they clearly are. Your cafe argument is a poor one as they need the public to run where the NRL will be playing without the public so it doesn’t compare.
 
Wolfie said:
They can, but will they. Like i said, if the NSW players can go home to their families, the quarantine isnt reliable, so the plan would have to be thrown out of the window. For it to work it has to be a one in, all in policy.

Bars and restaurants ( some of them anyway ) would be big enough to separate customers so the risk would be reduced. Social distancing and keeping people to very small groups is what has this thing under control. Seems a bit silly to me to take any risks with anything right now. Its just a game of footy. Its not the end of the world if it stops for a while.
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Clearly all the people that matter and are experts on this are satisfied with their measures and we don’t even know what those measures are exactly yet.
 
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