Broncos Record breaking coach is safe

I've listened to the commentary over the whole of this round. 'Experts' are voicing their opinion and saying if the Roosters lose a third 1st team player then their chances of making a GF are decidedly uncertain. The same goes for Manly. Many commentators are saying the fact they have lost Tommy Turbo they don't expect Manly to be doing anything special. Then they talk about Canberra who have lost three of their 1st graders and again they are all saying their chances are very slim to make a GF as it stands.

At present we have Arthurs, Staggs, Turpin, Offa, Lodge, Fifita and Bird either injured or unavailable. So seven regular 1st graders. I know nobody likes to point at injuries and use them as excuses, but when you look at the big picture it has meant Pies has been very limited in who he can drop and who he can actually field.

Yes our defence is putrid, yes our combinations and structure are non existent, but part of that is due to our team having no stability.

If any of the current top eight teams were down seven regulars I'm pretty sure they'd be struggling as bad as we are too.

Yes our season is well gone, but this adversity might well be the forging of a great team to come. Especially with the war chest we will have after for next season.

Go the Broncos!!

Cult3 said:

Is this a legitimate question?

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Every question is legitimate In this climate innit?

The problem with using game 1 and 2 as reasoning behind us having a good game in us is neither were good games. We sometimes capitalised on our oppositions errors, fell over the try line and allowed both teams to get within a try of us.

Cowboys
- kicked out on the full to open the game
- Turpin fell over from dummy half after a terrible defensive decision from a bloke who spent years out of the game. Individual brilliance.
- Staggs scored from passing right and Cowboys players falling off him. Individual brillance
- Pangai scored off a knock back from a shit placed kick, leaving the outside open. A fluke try
- Fifita scores from our best and only set play. ‘Pass it to Fifita’. Individual brilliance
- Isaako scores from hot potato passing that had no structure whatsoever. Team brilliance
- 64th minute and we were done

Rabbitohs
- Staggs scores after we simply pass to him and he does all the work. Individual brilliance
- Milford scores because the Rabbits hold off and he just runs. Individual brilliance
- Staggs scores because Fifita passes him the ball. Individual brilliance
- Staggs scores because of a Milford bomb, a Farnworth flick pass and some individual brilliance from Staggs. Team brilliance
- 57th minute and we were done

We won neither of these games because of coaching. We won because individuals and flukes and the opposition being shit. They aren’t good enough excuses to fall back on to say “we have it in us” or “the coach can get us up eventually”.

mrslong said:

Every question is legitimate In this climate innit?

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I reckon if you say it often enough certain people will believe it

ah well shit foordy sorry I stand corrected .

Jedhead said:

I've listened to the commentary over the whole of this round. 'Experts' are voicing their opinion and saying if the Roosters lose a third 1st team player then their chances of making a GF are decidedly uncertain. The same goes for Manly. Many commentators are saying the fact they have lost Tommy Turbo they don't expect Manly to be doing anything special. Then they talk about Canberra who have lost three of their 1st graders and again they are all saying their chances are very slim to make a GF as it stands.

At present we have Arthurs, Staggs, Turpin, Offa, Lodge, Fifita and Bird either injured or unavailable. So seven regular 1st graders. I know nobody likes to point at injuries and use them as excuses, but when you look at the big picture it has meant Pies has been very limited in who he can drop and who he can actually field.

Yes our defence is putrid, yes our combinations and structure are non existent, but part of that is due to our team having no stability.

If any of the current top eight teams were down six regulars I'm pretty sure they'd be struggling as bad as we are too.

Yes our season is well gone, but this adversity might well be the forging of a great team to come. Especially with the war chest we will have after for next season.

Go the Broncos!!

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I can see your point but 17 first graders can play a boring, well structured style even if they're not first or even second choice. Seibold should at least have any combination of players ready to play basic plan A. You know, BennettBall according to some. 5 hard hit ups (simple easy run on to the pass) and kick to corners and make your tackles.

In fact you don't even need much more than that in the attacking 20. You just keep pounding away until someone slips up and there's the chance that if your guys keep pounding a six again is almost certain these days. In short you DON'T HAVE to be brilliant in attack to play to Plan A, just committed.

Seibold hasn't even had the team reach the simplest and basic level. Had he done so from the start and not tried to reinvent the wheel we definitely wouldn't be asking for his head. Okay, we wouldn't be top 4 but we'd be in the eight and maybe finals cannon fodder but I'd take that over humiliation all around.

I reckon he has been told he has a certain number of games for the team to show improvement . If we are still doing squat then they will call it.

Cult3 said:

The problem with using game 1 and 2 as reasoning behind us having a good game in us is neither were good games. We sometimes capitalised on our oppositions errors, fell over the try line and allowed both teams to get within a try of us.

Cowboys
- kicked out on the full to open the game
- Turpin fell over from dummy half after a terrible defensive decision from a bloke who spent years out of the game. Individual brilliance.
- Staggs scored from passing right and Cowboys players falling off him. Individual brillance
- Pangai scored off a knock back from a shit placed kick, leaving the outside open. A fluke try
- Fifita scores from our best and only set play. ‘Pass it to Fifita’. Individual brilliance
- Isaako scores from hot potato passing that had no structure whatsoever. Team brilliance
- 64th minute and we were done

Rabbitohs
- Staggs scores after we simply pass to him and he does all the work. Individual brilliance
- Milford scores because the Rabbits hold off and he just runs. Individual brilliance
- Staggs scores because Fifita passes him the ball. Individual brilliance
- Staggs scores because of a Milford bomb, a Farnworth flick pass and some individual brilliance from Staggs. Team brilliance
- 57th minute and we were done

We won neither of these games because of coaching. We won because individuals and flukes and the opposition being shit. They aren’t good enough excuses to fall back on to say “we have it in us” or “the coach can get us up eventually”.

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I can't agree with all that. Brisbane were all over Souths in that opening 20 minute stanza and only went off the boil when they kicked a penalty to go from an 8 point lead to a 10 point lead. They had good support play from the middle, good points of attack with Turpin, Isaako, Croft, Milford contributing and the completions were fantastic. They went off the boil just before half-time after Macca put down an offload, but then Seibs made his best interchange of his stint here when he brought Staggs on at 5/8.

It was Haas who offloaded for Staggs and there was also some quick hands for Staggs' 'try'. The defence on the line was also good from the Broncos but they can't give away as many ruck infringements in today's game.

The Milford try also came from a nice set play where they had Isaako dig into a hole between Reynolds and Su'A. That opened up the space for Milford to weave his magic.

I'm sure there's other details there, but I do agree the quality of the opposition wasn't flash. I think the Broncos were always going to get found out at some point, I just don't think it would have been this horrible if they didn't have to contend with all these factors out of their control. A horrific opening draw, new rule interpretations, a bad injury toll and just this Covid bubble that just makes these losing streaks so much harder to get out of.

It seems so long ago since we had an honest, consistent 80 minute performance.
Right now I don't care if we win or lose. I just want us to compete.
Even the games we have won, we have switched off and let them in. In this restarted season, we pretty much start switched off, and never start, ground into the dust with 6 again calls.
Saturday was our chance with the one team that seems to get worse luck with the refs than us and we blew it.
The warriors were downright courageous. They had no right to win that. More so, with the weight of possession against them. But they did.
You can't control a brilliant attacking move on an opponents goal line or an intercept, but you can play the percentages when you're ahead. Make them work it out of their half. When they make a mistake, make sure the best result they can hope for is a set, grinding it off their own line.
If we did that consistently, the results would come. No extravagant passing or offloads outside your opponents thirty. Just have the half and hooker work the forwards until they bunch. then set some early tackle count kicks with your backs chasing to secure territory. Your opponents will falter. It's boring, it's dull, but with 6 again it works.
Of course there will come a time to push a pass with a retreating defence, and with an experienced backbone it is preferable, but you play with the hand dealt.
The only other thing is we have to show some discipline. We might cop the rough end of the pineapple on calls but theres too many for us not to share responsibility for. Fix that, combine it with a simple but effective game strategy that emphasises possession and territory, even at the expense of scoring and we will win.
We might still lose to the better teams but at least we start to build some resilience.let next season be the one for something more because the way we are going, we will be lucky to win another game.

Dexter said:

I reckon he has been told he has a certain number of games for the team to show improvement . If we are still doing squat then they will call it.

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Yeah because 6 comprehensive losses in a row doesn’t paint the whole story. They need more evidence

Purple Pills said:

Paul White: “Our long term vision for the coach and club is still on track”

Meanwhile in actual reality and not fantasy land:

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Forgive me, i'm a bit forgetful sometimes ... but hasn't there been something pretty serious going on across the globe that has affected virtually every business?

winslow_wong said:

Yeah because 6 comprehensive losses in a row doesn’t paint the whole story. They need more evidence

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Sure , from a fans point of view. It's fine for us to chuck tantrums but the club will give him a chance with a few important ins coming in the next few weeks.
Surely Turps and Fifita have to be close followed by Staggs and Lodge then Offa as well.
Hopefully that sees the end if Boyd too. So our team in 2 weeks will look vastly different to now.

Foordy said:

Forgive me, i'm a bit forgetful sometimes ... but hasn't there been something pretty serious going on across the globe that has affected virtually every business?

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That may be true but you can’t ignore the fact that the share price hit its lowest ebb when we lost 59-0 to the Roosters.

Share prices are obviously naturally down with COVID but they are plummeting even further due to on field results. That in itself should be a concern to Paul White who has to answer and pander to the stakeholders.

Not to mention we will be lucky to get even 50% of whatever max crowd is allowed for the Bulldogs game meaning whatever revenue the club is trying to recover is not being maximised during these tough times.

And if you currently google broncos membership like I did out of curiosity, the second most linked google phrase is ‘broncos membership refund’ meaning the amount of members who have looked into that must be very worrying for the CEO of what is suppose to be the most powerful club in the NRL.

Everytime I type any other NRL team plus the word membership, not one google hit comes up with the word ‘refund’ and that’s including the Bulldogs.

Dexter said:

**** Highwayman, you're back fella.
How was living in the bunker the last 3 months. I was concerned you wouldn't emerge for years.

Good to see up and around anyway.

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My bunker? God no, I saw the error of my ways. Everything is normal and returning to normal very fast. (Long term historical normal that is - don't worry your pretty little head about what I mean by that.)

Been to Victoria lately? Yeah I'll be laughing last. So get your laughs in now, sucker.

Is it just me or is White showing signs of being real exhausted

I bleed Maroon said:

Is it just me or is White showing signs of being real exhausted

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I’m sure he is, it must be exhausting destroying an entire club.

McHunt said:

How many has he lost?

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If that`s the criteria to coach the Broncos in the NRL sign me up !

What was the startling admission?
I watched the video, but I didn't see anything