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Hard to disagree with most of that but I still don't know about the whole Dearden thing. Not sure we could have hung on to him once they came knocking. Wasn't he a Cows supporter growing up and his hero was Thurston?

Sailor had clearly checked out but that was almost like a "**** you" to the club. Flog and I'm happy to see the back of him.

Can't wait to see the back of that Sisqo wannabe flog

Barnsey and The Tin Lids?

Realistically though, who should they have gotten? I mean my initial response was criticism but the more I think about it, who would people be satisfied with? You can only wheel out Barnsey so many times and the Hoodoo Gurus can **** right off.

Useless. Utterly, useless.

Kick em out!!

Alf managed to get a stay of execution eh? **** yeah.

I imagine they were looking for an excuse and he obliged them.

Not at all and I imagine we're at a point now that we have signed fringe players before him so can't offer him a deal. My point is, I think we should have gotten his signature before signing some of those fringe players, most of whom will only get a game or two next year anyway. I'd much...

Right? I would love to hear the argument against offering a stupidly loyal player that seemingly only wants minimum wage one last contract. Although, given some of the recruitment decisions these deadshits have made over the last couple of years I can't say I'm surprised.

Patty in particular hasn't looked happy for a while. One thing that stood out for me was a few weeks back when it hit half time and he was walking off the field, someone (Hetherington?) went for a fist bump and Patty brushed him. Edit: I just think he's a guy who has very high standards and...

Thanks for the visual...I'm envisioning the end scene of Boogie Nights but it's Kevie standing there in his Broncos jersey. "I'm a big bright shinning star"

Apparently it was mostly Elliot Whiteheads fault.

This. One of the most concerning things I heard (last year I think it was or maybe the year before) was from Reynolds talking about when he first arrived. I can't remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of how shocked he was at just the general lack of footy knowledge the team had...

@Sproj where does this Pieman business come from? Is this like you trying to nickname Mariner Aquaman?

It's definitely not an excuse...that's my point. The resilience, fitness and hard edge to defend effectively is all traced back to the preseason. You don't get that edge, physicality and fitness during the season.

I get they're missing Walker and now Smith and Radley...but does everything revolve around them? The Roosters haven't fired a shot.