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oh you really showed me.... kids got a ways to go before he breaks into origin.

wrong , wanted to return to Sydney. almost as good as Max plath is of origin utility standard .

where are these magical coaches you speak of ?

edge of the seat stuff that one .

he lives around the corner from me ...am pretty good at painting dick & balls too

aren't most locks playing big minutes ?

throw in coombahbah aswell

yeah Gus has had no influence at all , it's been all Ciraldo 👌

correct but was always going to happen, he had issues prior. I think Haas gets a little unfairly judged because he generally always performs , he's still very young for a prop.

so now we'd have a prop that has missed most of the season with a busted shoulder that will most likely cause early retirement, and another expensive centre that should be on the wing and a slightly better meter per game percentage.

I think you're not giving all involved the credit of turning our shit heap into a GF appearance, and then only just getting beaten by a team that will go down as one of the greatest . Also I think people are being a little nieve thinking we wouldn't have a grand final hangover after what...

Seibold didn't get us to a GF , he made us worse .

fair enough , maybe so but he deserves the opportunity to try.

delusional if you think this is all Kevvie's fault , changing coaches and systems will waste more than a year.

think it would be silly to get rid of him, Hodges wasn’t to dissimilar at cobbo's age. give him the help he needs and he could be great.

what about the matildas ?

yet still getting flogged

yeah the whole debate of props don't win premierships is out the door with Payne, he will lay the platform to win it . like in origin this year he can go to another level.

maybe she already was . he's a 6 that played centre yes but he has big game experience with all the attributes of a top shelf 6 , he just needs a good 7 next to him. mam has on of the best next to him , makes things a bit easier . but hey, let's hear more about your grandma

Wighton is still a better 6 even if he's playing prop 2 years from now. Brown with baggage is still a more complete player than mam , and burton in a shit team is still an origin and grand final winning player. mam has still got plenty to go.