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I think the fact that there are some rumours out there indicates that DD is keen on bringing the role back into the club... and thank **** for that!!
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It's an interesting one because it can go either way on the timing of this, if we can get a contract that isn't too heavily on potential it can cover both scenario's pretty well.
He does have a past injury record but he did play most of the year this time keeping in mind he was snubbed for the earlier rounds when he could've played, he does have some natural advantages as well as he is one of the biggest players in the game so the tackle break figure give or take will be a given for a player like him.
I think if we can get a contract under 700k it's well worth it, I think injuries are the big risk for him more than a form drop off as he seems to have a consistent style to him, the positives on the other hand are quite big, if he can get the mins up another 5-8 more on average I think he gets to the next level.
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I think this is where the length of the contract becomes important. A contract should either be long or high value, it shouldn't be both unless you are an absolute guarantee and I would say that's basically only Patty, Reece and Haas at the moment.
A long contract provides the player with security and provides the club value for money, assuming they've taken a paycut to get a longer deal.
A high value contract can align with a player's worth and demands from the manager, but if it's short then it still gives the club flexibility in roster and if the player doesn't live up to the contract at least you aren't weighed down by it for a long period of time.
A shorter contract for a younger player also means the player has flexibility... if they're killing it then they get the opportunity to increase that contract.
Recent ones of interest would be Ezra's contract vs Sam Walker's contract.
From reports Walker wanted big money, but he's also a young long term halfback for rorters who would probably want to lock him down for a long time... However they didn't flinch and over pay Sam, instead they are giving him his money, but only on a 2yr extension.
If Sam continues to improve that 2yr contract will look like great value, but it also means he becomes less and less of a risk... so rorters can look to upgrade that contract to the long term deal that they want and all parties are happy.
For us Ezra had a break out year last year and our R&R has gone straight to a long term deal worth big money... suddenly Ezra isn't looking as good and there's already question marks on the deal even though he hasn't even started it yet.
It's weak from R&R to basically give in to the manager's demands instantly when the player is not yet proven.
Ezra definitely deserved an upgrade, but he's had one good year and he has yet to completely run the show... upgrade and extend, but only extend for 2yr or so and then re-evaluate as he develops.
Hopefully we approach Willison in a similar style to rorters with Sam and not just handing out yet another high value long term contract.
Big Pete
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Unless I've missed something, I don't think anyone is calling Willison a dud for failing to make the team or calling the selectors morons (@Mustafur may have thought it though) just that it's one less thing the manager can use to drive up his price during a contract year.
Willison for mine was a stand-out during the Origin period last year and his emergence alongside Sailor, Mariner and Piakura went a long way to the Broncos winning a lot of those games.
He was also a stand-out for the Seagulls later in the season.
$150,000
11,250,000 --> 11,400,000
It'd be overs, but I could see a club taking a punt with the idea that he's the best emerging prop on the free market and he'll be 24 when they get their hands on him.
Big Del
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This idea the media dictating a players worth .
I don`t see it . The coach and recruitment know the character of the player , his work ethic , skills etc . That should determine their value . Not some talking head`s opinion .
Big Pete
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Is there a particular reason you're bringing up the media?
I could see a player-manager using their client's representative experience to drive up their value. I also believe clubs are desperate enough to take big risks.
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Linking up with Broncos immortal Anthony Milford.
Big Del
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It`s a cliche I hear over and again .
Media reports player X is valued at . Cue supporters outrage .
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The salary cap isn't a magic pudding.
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Madge has confirmed he has gotten rid of a rewards system that saw Broncos players given additional time off (1 extra week of annual leave) by Kevvie for obtaining their fitness benchmarks/KPIs when they reported for pre-season..
Maguire believes it should be standard and a basic requirement for a first grade NRL player to report in top shape/not overweight for day 1 of pre-season and they should not expect a reward for this.
I know when he coached us, the man would work insane hours and was always the last bloke out of the building each night. He's definitely gonna be ruffling some feathers up there with the standards he sets and expects of the players. The rewards of this will be seen as the season goes on of course.
Maguire believes it should be standard and a basic requirement for a first grade NRL player to report in top shape/not overweight for day 1 of pre-season and they should not expect a reward for this.
I know when he coached us, the man would work insane hours and was always the last bloke out of the building each night. He's definitely gonna be ruffling some feathers up there with the standards he sets and expects of the players. The rewards of this will be seen as the season goes on of course.
Broncapz
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I love Madge already.
Kevie is like "Please work hard for me please...do it for Broncos jersey"
Bellamy is like "If you don't work hard, I'll find someone who will"
Swordfish
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Mate, I appreciate all the “scoops” you been hearing about us is being shared here. I really do.
MM confirmed your scoop to who?
How in the world would you happen to know what an opponents newly appointed coach plans to do? It also makes me wonder — you’re more concerned &/ jealous about us getting MM as our coach or you simply don’t give a rats arse to things happening around Rabbits.
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Swordfish
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. It was in the regular Sports Confidential column in today's CM. Literally what he posted.
Are you saying it's not true?
Swordfish
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I don’t follow CM/ any media for Broncos news mate. So, I do not know what’s been reported(allegedly).
I only follow BroncosHQ.
tommy
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Who get their news from those sources. Then whinge, bitch and moan that the media are unreliable if it doesn't match their opinion.
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Nothing original here. Just reposting the MSM and whinging about it.
