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[QUOTE="Fitzy, post: 3345205, member: 9881"] I’d love to see where everybody’s opinion on the coaching situation is. Obviously Langer has done tremendously results wise since taking over really putting us and India at the forefront of cricket in all formats arguably NZ as well but I think we have proven that India is the only team that should be competing with us at test level. JL fixed the culture and huge issues from when Sandpaper gate happened. But at the end of the day it seems the players just aren’t quite buying in. We are doing really well at the moment but it’s seems like that enjoyment and ruthless factor isn’t present considering our successes. Our team is so capable but it seems like something just isn’t quite right from a mentality stand point whether that is enjoyment levels or another factor. Obviously JL isn’t there to be there friend and really Australian players need a thicker skin if they are worried about it. Maybe the laissez-faire England setup and losing is what our players so desperately desire. It’s seriously quite a hard one to wrap my head around. You have reports and speculation and seemingly player opinions of dissatisfaction gracing media platforms through leaks. Yet results would suggest there isn’t an issue with the coach cause usually players struggle to play with any substance or effort when they are no longer in support of a coach. Whilst at times I do see a lack of energy and ruthless-ness from a team that is so clear in front. From a performance perspective Justin gets a massive tick and it is hard to argue that these discussions should be occurring daily in the media but in the slight chance that players are unhappy at the end of the day their performances is the by-product and if Justin is standing in the way of them going to another level than well he should move aside or be moved aside. Mentality of this side is so important and obviously you want a great WORKING relationship with your players (I couldn’t give a **** about outside to be honest he’s not there to be friends) but being on the road and in a bubble situation is his intense, intimidating and over controlling style to much for the players to grasp with such little freedom. Through my junior sports I always found that the intense and intimidating coaches always scared you into winning no matter how good of a coach they really were. It may sound silly but that was my experience. I think the split red ball, white ball duties is a guarantee regardless of what happens with our next coach. I personally am backing JL in the red ball duties he has got success in Test cricket and I would be trying hard to get Trevor Bayliss as the white ball coach both for success and that’s clearly what the players want. I think our white ball team has underperformed significantly since JL even considering a t20 World Cup win but that came as a result of mostly great individual performances towards the back end. JL survives for now but the question is whether the players opinions of him as a coach is limiting there ability to continue to improve, succeed and become one of the great ruthless sides. Curious to see everyone else’s thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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