NEWS Broncos adapting to ‘intense’ Seibold training sessions.

Eta Carinae

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Thats rubbish Reyter. We are a halfback away from being as good as any side going around and we have an abundance of top quality younger blokes with huge potential.
IMO and based on the last..... (how many years now?), a halfback away is quite far indeed. How about Boyd?
 

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IMO and based on the last..... (how many years now?), a halfback away is quite far indeed. How about Boyd?
Boyd has been fine up until he played most of last year injured. Don't try to rewrite history by saying he has been poor since he came back because he really hasn't up until 2018. He suffered last year because we just didn't have any viable option at fullback. Issako is nowhere near ready or good enough there yet. If he is fully fit in 2019, we will see a totally different player.

As for the halfback thing, its one player who will make all the difference. That shows we arent far away. Saying Bennett has left the roster in a bad state just shows you have a bit of an agenda about Bennett and really shows you are trolling.
 

Eta Carinae

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Boyd has been fine up until he played most of last year injured. Don't try to rewrite history by saying he has been poor since he came back because he really hasn't up until 2018. He suffered last year because we just didn't have any viable option at fullback. Issako is nowhere near ready or good enough there yet. If he is fully fit in 2019, we will see a totally different player.

As for the halfback thing, its one player who will make all the difference. That shows we arent far away. Saying Bennett has left the roster in a bad state just shows you have a bit of an agenda about Bennett and really shows you are trolling.
Never did. He was very poor last year. Injured his hamstring the previous year but what did he do last year?

Never stated otherwise.

I hope you're right.

Go back and reread the message. I said "not great shape". A poor halfback alone would constitute "not great shape", wouldn't it?

If I'm right about the fullback, it would be heading toward "bad shape". Not quite but a few more under-performing players and no viable replacement (Macca, Bird), which may or may not come to pass, would be "bad shape" IMO. Certainly in comparison to the Rorters for example.
 

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Maybe I am in the minority but I like Nikorima at 7. Milford really improved his game last year too. Consistency was the issue the whole side last year. Some better edge defending and 5th tackle options will go a long way. I actually like the Broncos@$10 for the comp. Milford @$41 for Dally M is also worth a fiver or two
 

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Never did. He was very poor last year. Injured his hamstring the previous year but what did he do last year?

Never stated otherwise.

I hope you're right.

Go back and reread the message. I said "not great shape". A poor halfback alone would constitute "not great shape", wouldn't it?

If I'm right about the fullback, it would be heading toward "bad shape". Not quite but a few more under-performing players and no viable replacement (Macca, Bird), which may or may not come to pass, would be "bad shape" IMO. Certainly in comparison to the Rorters for example.
He played not fully fit last year. You said he is on too much money ( which he isnt for a player of his ability ) and his contract is too long ( which if he continues to struggle it could well be ). He did his hamstring pretty late in 2017, he wasnt poor generally in 2017, or in 2015 or 2016 for that matter. You saying he isnt worth the money is based on one year out of 4. You are just focusing on what he bought to the table in 2018.

And one player missing doesn't mean the squad isnt in great shape. We were up and down a lot last year mainly due to a lot of inexperience. Even if Boyd fails to recover, we still wouldnt be heading towards being in bad shape anyway.
 
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I'm willing to reserve judgement on the spine until we see Seibold's structure, which got Souths to no. 1 in attack.

Macca, Knik, Milf and Boyd have played under largely the same structures their whole first grade career with Griffin being a poor man's Bennett.

Macca & Knik Griffin and Bennett
Milf majority under Bennett (especially @ 6)
Boyd whole career under Bennett

To me they both employ defensive minded conservative tactics so it's hard to gauge how they may play under an offensive minded coach.

Calls on Boyd being past I think are a bit ridiculous. I think his backend to last year was very promising athletically and he could prove to be a serious weapon under Seibold given what he was able to achieve with Hoggman 2.0, compared to now with an actual ball player back there.

His use of Macca will be interesting. I find Macca is ok around the ruck close to the line often able to pick out the right forward for crash balls. Macca's issue has always been decision making and it sounds like (from 1910 and interviews) that Seibold could really improve that area of his game just by the way he talks about the game.

I think defence is the serious issue and given all the talk from the players this preseason has been regarding our defense it makes me think that Seibold has identified this as the serious problem area and has been hammering it into the players

With an improved defense and a potentially devastating offensive game this team could be a serious contender.
 
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Maybe I am in the minority but I like Nikorima at 7. Milford really improved his game last year too. Consistency was the issue the whole side last year. Some better edge defending and 5th tackle options will go a long way. I actually like the Broncos@$10 for the comp. Milford @$41 for Dally M is also worth a fiver or two
For all the shit talking going on, it seems like people forget how crap we played in some games and yet still finished only 2 wins off join first place.....just a bit more consistency and composure when we came up against the bottom teams and we probably would have easily taken out the minor premiership.......all this with Niko in the halves.

Was it his fault we couldn't beat the bottom 8 teams consistently? If it was, does that mean he gets the credit for beating the top 8 consistently?

If we can improve on that inconsistency, which is natural and even expected for such a young team and will come with experience, I think Niko is just fine. Not the best for sure, but there is so much room for improvement with this team it excites me what we could achieve if everything just clicked and we put in a full 80 minutes of fire.
 

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For all the shit talking going on, it seems like people forget how crap we played in some games and yet still finished only 2 wins off join first place.....just a bit more consistency and composure when we came up against the bottom teams and we probably would have easily taken out the minor premiership.......all this with Niko in the halves.

Was it his fault we couldn't beat the bottom 8 teams consistently? If it was, does that mean he gets the credit for beating the top 8 consistently?

If we can improve on that inconsistency, which is natural and even expected for such a young team and will come with experience, I think Niko is just fine. Not the best for sure, but there is so much room for improvement with this team it excites me what we could achieve if everything just clicked and we put in a full 80 minutes of fire.
* 2 points. 1 win.
 

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For all the shit talking going on, it seems like people forget how crap we played in some games and yet still finished only 2 wins off join first place.....just a bit more consistency and composure when we came up against the bottom teams and we probably would have easily taken out the minor premiership.......all this with Niko in the halves.

Was it his fault we couldn't beat the bottom 8 teams consistently? If it was, does that mean he gets the credit for beating the top 8 consistently?

If we can improve on that inconsistency, which is natural and even expected for such a young team and will come with experience, I think Niko is just fine. Not the best for sure, but there is so much room for improvement with this team it excites me what we could achieve if everything just clicked and we put in a full 80 minutes of fire.
In the right team Knik would be a good traditional 6, we just don’t need 2 ball runners. We need a traditional organiser, a natural skill that unfortunately neither of our halves possess.

Surely we have options at 7. O’Sullivan?
 

Eta Carinae

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* 2 points. 1 win.
Irrelevant. Need I remind anyone of the last game and what place the team finished the season in?

A few changes for which it remains to be seen if they are good or bad. I was thinking 'bad' until Fensom was signed. Judging by that last game, the young guys in the forwards believed their own hype but didn't want to put in the hard time to deserve it. Fensom in the middle making 50 tackles a game may free them up in attack.

So Siebold deserves at least one, maybe 2 years grace before we start demanding a premiership or his head. If he gets one before that, all the better.
 

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Irrelevant. Need I remind anyone of the last game and what place the team finished the season in?

A few changes for which it remains to be seen if they are good or bad. I was thinking 'bad' until Fensom was signed. Judging by that last game, the young guys in the forwards believed their own hype but didn't want to put in the hard time to deserve it. Fensom in the middle making 50 tackles a game may free them up in attack.

So Siebold deserves at least one, maybe 2 years grace before we start demanding a premiership or his head. If he gets one before that, all the better.
Of course it's irrelevant when it doesn't conform with your bullshit stance.

Surely a sample of 25 games is going to give a more accurate representation of a team's ability than one solitary game. Sure it was the most important game of the season, but that's what happens with a young inconsistent side. In fact shitting the bed the way we did, which was punctuated by simply far too many critical errors at crucial times, compared to how we fared in other games (beating the Roosters and Rabbitohs twice etc), simply proves the inconsistency.

That issue will be relieved somewhat by having another year under our belt, plus having two of our best players back. Gillett's return can not be overstated, seeing as how our biggest issues in defence came right where he would normally defend.

But, whatever. Until you move away from your posting style of 90% negativity, you can argue what you want but no one will take your stance seriously.
 

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