Buzz: Roosters masters of managing cap

[subsbligh]

Other than SBW and Jennings, there are no standout superstars "bought" to win the comp.

Maloney has Soward 2010 levels of playmaker ability/value. Pearce - self proven flop - take him out of NSW Origin team, they win a series. Been there since he was a kid.

Mini's past it, Topou, RTS, SKD, up and comers/cheaper, JWH signed as a basically a promising rookie from Manly, Cordner/Guerra established themselves at this club, ditto Friend, Moa - suprise packet late developer, would be cheap as, bench of rookies, nothing standout.

Dumb article by a boring journo who gets paid probably $150K a year to phone in his one sentence-paragraphed, no fact based, opinion/statement articles 3 times a week.

 

[Foordy]

Rothfield my be the biggest dip shit league journalist (and I use the term journalist very loosely) in history.

but does that Roosters official really expect us to believe that they were able to get $BW, Maloney and Jennings for the 300k they had spare in the salary cap...

If he doesn't want the club to be called cheats, then he certainly shouldn't be making those sort of claims, because all it will do is intensify the cheat accusations

 

[Big Pete]

This article is utter trash which is hardly surprising given the source.

In fact, I find it funny that the only part I could reasonably believe is Maloney who was actually pretty hot property when he signed around the end of 2011 and that was at a time where clubs were bending over backwards to sign halves.

Given incentives and other upgrades, 600K sounds about right.

I don't even think he was that far off from where he is now. He did take a wounded Warriors outfit sans Price who were a wounded spoon outfit prior to the finals & then to a GF a year after. Considering Sandow is allegedly on $550K for never ever leading Souths to a final, got no trouble believing Maloney is being 50K more.

They've recruited well the Roosters. They've often looked at bringing in the likes of Tupou, Moa & LOD and turning them into treasure. They also spend a ton of money on juniors. Don't know what sort of cap they have - but they'd be getting a fair penny for donning the Tri Colours.

 

[Alec]

Trent Robinson and Jason Taylor are also the best coaching double team in the competition by far.

 

[Cult]

Trent Robinson and Jason Taylor are also the best coaching double team in the competition by far.

Robinson is yet to prove himself with a group of nobodies yet. Superstars all across the park. All he has proven is that intentionally giving penalties to reset their defensive line works. I love how having a team with great players everywhere works for Trent Robinson but Bennett has never ever done anything to prove himself, ever,

 

[Alec]

Robinson is yet to prove himself with a group of nobodies yet. Superstars all across the park. All he has proven is that intentionally giving penalties to reset their defensive line works. I love how having a team with great players everywhere works for Trent Robinson but Bennett has never ever done anything to prove himself, ever,

Bennett is one of the best ever coaches. Never said otherwise. :noidea:

Robinson and Taylor knew exactly who to get, how to fit them in their structure, get the most out of them. how to make everything work etc.

Find me someone who actually expected them to be as successful as they were last year? A good number of people probably didn't even think they'd make the finals before the season started.

If we had them instead of Griffin, we'd probably be challenging for a premiership now as well. We'd probably have a decent proper half to partner Hunt too.

 

[Mr Fourex]

If we had them instead of Griffin, we'd probably be challenging for a premiership now as well.

Yeah......nahhh.

SBW, Friend, Guerra, Topau, RTS, Moa, FPN....Maloney and Jennings, shits over what we got as talent.

No, the Roosters bought well. They purchased a well rounded premiership team.

 

[Morkel]

Yeah......nahhh.

SBW, Friend, Guerra, Topau, RTS, Moa, FPN....Maloney and Jennings, shits over what we got as talent.

No, the Roosters bought well. They purchased a well rounded premiership team.

I see what you did there.

 

[Je$ter]

Those numbers are ridiculous. He's just plucking shit out of the air to make a story.

Hastings and Napa would barely be on $100k. Aubusson maybe $200 at the most.

 

[subsbligh]

Smart buys - SBW was a calculated risk with a massive non-financial impact on those around him. i.e. OMG I'm playing with a bona fide superstar who is the ultimate professional. You would pay $10M a season for him without the salary cap.

The only other player in the market now with that kind of x-factor pull, in any Australian code of football IMO, would be Israel Folau.

Thurston, Cronk, Smith, DCE - amazing Rugby League players, build a franchise around them.

But Folau, SBW - dual international sportstars with that x-factor that can single handedly turn games and brings people through the turnstiles.

You look at that versus some of the rumor mill discussions that go on around here/the type of acquisitions we seriously consider as a club - Sandow, Russell Packer, Josh Dugan.

 

[1910]

What the article and the speculation ignore is that most of the guys that the Roosters have had success with weren't signed at their market value now but their value 3 years ago.

Moa- reject from England
Tupou- 20 year old
Cordner- 16 year old
Friend- was working in Subway
Guerra- Doing nothing at the Storm
Napa- Brisbane Norths

You could have signed all those guys plus another 5 or 6 just with what Anasta and Myles freed up.

 

[Alec]

Yeah. The team probably isn't over the cap, its going to impossible to keep though. Cordner is going to be one of the best back rowers. Guerra is becoming great too. Napa, Evans etc will all demand big money in the future.

 

[Super Freak]

I think Roosters will be able to find a way to keep that squad for another year or 2.

SBW is leaving and Mini is retiring after all.

 

[Morkel]

SBW didn't commit to 2014 until very, very late in 2013. And his figure was $1 million, his manager made no secret of that. So are you telling me that they had a million dollars uncommitted for 2014 right up until virtually the pre-season, on the off-chance that he said yes?

 

[vertigo]

His base salary would be nowhere near that.

He'd be getting a huge chunk of marquee allowance and third party deals.

 

[Foordy]

His base salary would be nowhere near that.

He'd be getting a huge chunk of marquee allowance and third party deals.

Your right about that but his base salary would still have to be 300k or more.

Yet this Roosters official was claiming that with the 300k they had spare they were able to sign $BW, Maloney and Jennings. No way on hell.

Maloney base salary would also have to be over 200k.

Otherwise the NRL massively screwed the Eels (and the game for that matter) when the refused to register a base contract for Folau for about 100k.

 

[Morkel]

His base salary would be nowhere near that.

He'd be getting a huge chunk of marquee allowance and third party deals.

If that was the case, why would he ask for a million dollars for the season? Yes, we all know that even though these 3rd party deals have to be sourced by the manager, not the club, that in reality the club does the running around. But those deals also have to be declared to the NRL seperately. So why would they go around asking for Figure Y when in reality the club will only be providing Figure X to that player? It's like me going to my employer and asking him to pay me $200k a year, but I only want him to pay be $120k, the rest can come from any boxing bouts, and appearances for hairdressers that I might feel like doing on the weekends.