Friday Night Refs

[Porthoz]

While the Broncs managed to grind out that win at Skilled Park against a very poor refereeing display, I would be fuming if I was a Parra fan. How on earth were those 2 early tries from the Eels not awarded, or in the second case, at least gone to the video ref? [eusa_doh
Can't have souffs losing three in a row? [icon_non

 

[vertigo]

Agreed, I thought the 'forward pass' was a line ball and the 'double movement' was a bounce.

 

[Twiztid]

I thought it was a very similar pass to what Sandow got called up on in Round 1 and that could have given us a lead in the first half of that game. It was flat and floated forward, so 9 times out of 10 it would have been let go.

I thought it a was very text book double movement. If he kept that arm on the ground he would have slid across the try line with the momentum and it would have been a try no dramas. From watching it live at the game and then coming home and seeing it on tv it looked like a 2nd go, not much in at all though.

Another call that went against Parra was late in the game Ben Smith jumped on a loose ball and Sutto dived on him and the ball came out and they calmed the tackle had been made as soon as Sutto put his hand on him. I thought that should have been play on.

 

[Bucking Beads]

That red headed turd brett sutor is disgraceful imo the refs were dead against us last night.

 

[Coxy]

Forward pass and double movement calls were 100% correct. Gould as usual wants rules to be overlooked when the play is exciting. Doesn't work that way.

I like Brett Suttor. Love his rapport with the players.

Thought both games were refereed fairly consistently. Only gripe I had was the stripping calls in our game.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

I thought both tries were fine. The ball clearly came out of haynes hands backwards, and only drifted marginally forward. The second try was fine too, as far as i know, dont the rules say you can promote the ball if you are still moving coz of momentum? In that case, he bounced up once he hit the ground so he had every right to help it on its way

 

[Kaz]

I thought both tries should have been awarded.

Though the better team won.

Didn't like the ref in our game saying one of our players was a goose, if a player said that to a ref he probably would have been penalised or binned.

 

[ningnangnong]

Didn't like the ref in our game saying one of our players was a goose, if a player said that to a ref he probably would have been penalised or binned.

Come on, really?

People are going to start whinging about that? Nothing wrong with it IMO.

 

[Charmamba]

Its about the same as calling someone a dick, not really worth bothering with its a nothing comment.

now if he called him a fucking goose or something yeah get upset.

 

[ningnangnong]

Its about the same as calling someone a dick, not really worth bothering with its a nothing comment.

Nice try.

 

[Porthoz]

Forward pass and double movement calls were 100% correct. Gould as usual wants rules to be overlooked when the play is exciting. Doesn't work that way.

I like Brett Suttor. Love his rapport with the players.

Thought both games were refereed fairly consistently. Only gripe I had was the stripping calls in our game.

Sorry mate, your vision needs readjustment.
The refs had been so much better compared to last year, until last night...

I know I'm biased, but the Broncos game was one way traffic in ref decisions, starting with the scrum penalty, continuing with the forward passes from dummy half, the offside penalties on the try line and stripping penalties given to them and let go when in our favour.
I know we dropped the pill too much, but a lot of the Titans dominance was on the back of those referee decisions too!

The Hayne ball floated forward, but left his hands backward. The Lasalo try wasn't helped by his promoting, but it was a bounce and momentum got him over the try line.
Nothing to say on the Moimoi binning though, and if I was his coach, I would give him the serving of a lifetime! :roll:
At the end of the day the best team may have won, but I wonder what would've have happened it Souffs was 12-0 down after 5 minutes...

 

[Charmamba]

Its about the same as calling someone a dick, not really worth bothering with its a nothing comment.

Nice try.

Just poking fun dude icon_thumbs_u

 

[Kimlo]

Was not a double movement. Anyone who suggests that it was a "classic" double movement doesn't know what a double movement is.

There was momentum in the play, his arm bounced over the line. Fair try.

A classic double movement is when a player falls short of the line and he extends his arm forward to reach over the line, without any momentum for assistance.

Perfect try in normal motion.

+1

 

[Big Pete]

Parra weren't screwed but were seriously unlucky not to of had both tries awarded.

Hayne's pass came backwards out of the hand, was a sensational pass and deserved a reward.

Lasalo bounced over, he didn't promote the ball at all.

Suttor is a wanker and if he wants respect as a ref. he better give respect to the players.

 

[Twiztid]

Was not a double movement. Anyone who suggests that it was a "classic" double movement doesn't know what a double movement is.

There was momentum in the play, his arm bounced over the line. Fair try.

A classic double movement is when a player falls short of the line and he extends his arm forward to reach over the line, without any momentum for assistance.

Perfect try in normal motion.

Obviously I don't know what a double movement is then.

My understanding is that if the arm carrying the ball makes contact with the ground while tackled and the arm is lifted and motioned again for a 2nd dig at scoring a try is a double movement.

Yes, there was momentum in the tackle but it wasn't were the motion was in the entire body, as you see in spinning tackles were the attacker spins to keep momentum to score.

This was all in his arm, Lasalo plants the ball short of the line then lifts up and goes again. If he kept that arm down and slide across the line he would have scored. As I said in my original post there is doubt there but by the rules that is what happened. Though this will not be the first time a double movement try will be a close one and will go either way.

 

[Fozz]

Yeah, that's the way I've always seen it ruled. Once the ball hits the ground, the arm can't be moved to promote the ball but if momentum carries the player over the line then it's a try.

 

[Coxy]

Rock is wrong. It was a double movement. He fell short. That he bounced is irrelevant. He lifted and promoted the ball with his arms. That's a double movement.

Same as Gillett's in round 1.

 

[Twiztid]

Rock is wrong. It was a double movement. He fell short. That he bounced is irrelevant. He lifted and promoted the ball with his arms. That's a double movement.

Same as Gillett's in round 1.

Edit....

I had a 2nd look at a better quality video. You are right these two double movements are very similar, IMO right call both times.