Gorrell

[Professor47]

Look, I don't want to start a hate thread, but honest what is the deal with Gorrell?
I'm the first to admit I never saw enough of him at the dragons to judge, but has he got potential or what?
He screams average to me? I don't see how he can hold a spot over Andrew, Can ANdrew play 80mins? or capable of playing 80? I have to say, I'm not a fan of hookers who can't play 80!

If we are going to have 2 Dhalfs, surely Andrew and PJ Marsh have to be our two. Surely? - And if so, they need to at least get a rhythm going from about round 15ish so they can be ready to fire come September.

(On a side note, IF we want Izzy left centre, everyone is screaming for it, I'm sure it is on Henjak's mind - IF we are going down that way, I hope it happens soon, because I think you want to know by about round 15-17 what you're 17 is going to be exactly come GF day, so you can really get a rhythm going.) Personally, I'm not sure about it but I think it would be better in the long run if he did move, as lethal as Hodges/Folau combo is.

 

[Coxy]

Gorrell's fine. I hate the obsession the Broncos have with 2 dummyhalves though. In the modern game if a halfback can play 80 minutes, so should a hooker. They don't do that much more.

I'd much rather have another bopper on the bench with Glenn the utility who can play in the backs or forwards.

 

[Professor47]

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So can Andrew play 80 or what? I'd certainly rather him play 80 and that's that. If possible.

 

[Coxy]

Yeah not sure if he can or not. Don't see why not though. Even if he can't, then we make sure someone else in the 17 is adequate at dummyhalf to cover him.

 

[Jeba]

He couldn't go the 80 in the Toyota Cup last year and if they want him to play 80 I think he would struggle initially but would "adapt" well.

Agree about Gorrell though he is quite ordinary. PJ Marsh has been playing well for the Comets, although today he got injured about 4 times throughout the game so there is the concern about him playing for the Broncos when he is very injury prone.

 

[Coxy]

Yeah you couldn't bank on Marsh playing a full 80. But he could be on the bench and not just a sub for McCullough. He's a good roving utility. Hell, play him at lock or something late in the half or the game, use him as an extra half/five-eighth - sort of Berrigan style.

Gorrell..as russo has pointed out, his organising has been solid most of the season, and that's really what his job is. His service from dummyhalf has improved too. TBH I don't really notice him much when he's on, whereas earlier in the season it was really a case of "fucking Gorrell stuffing it up again"...

McCullough is a superstar in the making though IMO. Give him the starting jumper and as much time as he wants.

 

[Flutterby]

Coxy you are forgetting about the Chi on Friday night.

 

[Dave]

Have to remember though that McCullough is still eligible for U20 and is playing probably the toughest position on the field. I would be happy to see it continue as it is now with Macca getting 60-65 minutes but with a goal of getting him to 80 by the end of the season.

I was critical of Gorrell in the first few weeks but I thought he went well Friday night, his defence is strong and he really kept our forwards running straight and hard. I would probably rather seehim play the first 20 of the second half, his direct approach may be just what we need after halftime.

 

[Coxy]

Coxy you are forgetting about the Chi on Friday night.

Ah that's right. Gorrell's like our money tree. If he's not sitting on the bench (the front door to the field) then things go bad :P

 

[Aeetee]

Its all about the Feng Shui baby!!

 

[ethos]

Gorrell's fine. I hate the obsession the Broncos have with 2 dummyhalves though. In the modern game if a halfback can play 80 minutes, so should a hooker. They don't do that much more.

Apart from 20 or so more tackles..

I think that's the main issue, clubs generally want players who can come off the bench and run with speed from dummy half. Hard to do if you're the starting hooker and you're fatigued from making a ton of tackles.

Granted there are a lot of very successful 80 minute hookers going around but I don't think McCullough is quite at that stage yet. He will be eventually, just not quite yet.

 

[Fozz]

Yes, I hate seeing a bench spot being wasted by a hooker.

If McCullough is ready to play 80 minutes, mentally and physically he should.

 

[Russo]

Gorrell = 2009 Stu Kelly. :roll:

Nobody is listening or watching him properly but Chris, I honestly give up. Maybe you guys need him to be dropped to see what is missing when he is not around.

Gee this place and members give me the shits sometimes :evil:

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

its not like its a new thing, or a rarity for a hooker that can play all game. in fact, it was only really used when eels had piggy and marsh, up til then basically all hookers played the full game. then other coaches started trying to do wat the eels were doing with mixed success. i think its ridiculous replacing the hooker. if they cant play 80, dont have them in your team.

 

[Black Philip]

Gorrell = 2009 Stu Kelly. :roll:

Nobody is listening or watching him properly but Chris, I honestly give up. Maybe you guys need him to be dropped to see what is missing when he is not around.

Gee this place and members give me the shits sometimes :evil:

Yeah cause you're 100% right 100% of the time aren't you Russo? Anyone who has an opinion different to yours MUST be wrong.

You're a clown. :roll:

IMO Gorrell hasn't done anything wrong, he's been pretty solid, but the criticism he's copping was bound to happen since he isn't showing the form Ennis was last year for us. I agree with Coxy RE the hooker on the bench. I'd love to see Glenn be the utility with 3 big fellas to bring on. Taylor and Wapau off the bench when in form would be great.

 

[ningnangnong]

Gorrell is solid, nothing more.

It's a bit of waste having him on the bench and then only using him for twenty minutes IMO.

He rarely takes a run from dummy half, needs to do that a bit more i reckon.

 

[Professor47]

Don't get me started on Stu Kelly.
Honestly, I've got huge rants about him, but the simple fact was, I did not think he was good enough to be a Bronco first grader. Harsh but honest truth. It takes more than a good footballer to be a Bronco but it goes both ways too. No matter how good of a bloke you are or how good of a trainer you are, sometimes you don't have the skill to be a first grader. Coaches say it is one of the hardest thing to do; telling a bloke he cannot make it in first grade. I REFUSE to believe there was not a better winger in the reserve grades or feeder team during that time. Anyway that is my view on it I guess.

 

[rnabokov]

Gorrell's fine. I hate the obsession the Broncos have with 2 dummyhalves though. In the modern game if a halfback can play 80 minutes, so should a hooker. They don't do that much more.

I'd much rather have another bopper on the bench with Glenn the utility who can play in the backs or forwards.

That's my view as well.

As far as I am conerned, a quality utility on the bench is critical rather than a specialist hooker.

Apart from which, I like the way McCullough plays. But then Gorrell did seem to make a difference when he came on the other night.

Keep it as it is ATM, although ultimately, I'd rather see Taylor rather than Gorrell on the bench.