hayne... just go all ready, you are a stain on society.

[Aeetee]

JARRYD Hayne's heart has been with Parramatta since he started playing for the club as a 12-year-old.

But the prospect of playing in the AFL, and joining Karmichael Hunt and Israel Folau, is pulling at him as Hayne claims the NRL keeps putting the players last.

"Let's not beat around the bush," Hayne said.

"Quite frankly, it's obvious that the NRL comes first, then the leagues club, then the players. That's the pecking order. It's becoming more and more clear."

Hayne is contracted to the Eels until 2013, but after that he said the prospect of a new challenge might take him away from the NRL.

During his contract negotiations with the Eels a year ago, Hayne's interest in AFL was seen as a bargaining tool.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5996645334

 

[Bucking Beads]

Money talks.

 

[Flutterby]

I can't stand Hayne, but I can easily see how the players feel they are considered the least important part of the game in the eyes of the powers.

 

[Jeba]

Why is he a stain? What has he done that is so bad?

Sure he acts like a tool on the field but then so do a lot of players so what's the big deal? Hayne is a quality player, and as much as I can't stand him, I hope he stays in the NRL. We need our quality players to stay in our game. Hayne is 100% right, the players are never priority when it comes to managing a national rugby league comp, except what the NRL fails to remember is that it's the players that DRIVE the competition, not the other way around.

Hey beads, you're right. Money does talk. And if the NRL weren't so backwards, then they would be able to keep more of our stars, because money talks. icon_thumbs_u

Absolutely spot on.

He is correct in saying NRL comes first, and that's why we have the "talent levelling" salary cap. The NRL has demonstrated that they don't care if the best players go to other codes or overseas because that is just the salary cap doing its job.

 

[ningnangnong]

Absolutely spot on.

He is correct in saying NRL comes first, and that's why we have the "talent levelling" salary cap. The NRL has demonstrated that they don't care if the best QUEENSLAND players go to other codes or overseas because that is just the salary cap doing its job.

Just thought I'd fix that up for you there, Jeb. icon_thumbs_u

 

[Jeba]

Absolutely spot on.

He is correct in saying NRL comes first, and that's why we have the "talent levelling" salary cap. The NRL has demonstrated that they don't care if the best QUEENSLAND players go to other codes or overseas because that is just the salary cap doing its job.

Just thought I'd fix that up for you there, Jeb. icon_thumbs_u

Thanks champ icon_thumbs_u

 

[Coxy]

The thing is, Hayne isn't saying the NRL puts the players last, he's saying they put HIM last. He is quite possibly the most selfish person on the planet. It's all about him. **** off and die already you ****.

 

[Coxy]

It's pretty easy to understand this douchebag, Rocky. He's a typical money hungry little ****.

 

[Emma]

Whether or not what he's saying is correct, anything that comes out of his mouth is going to be viewed by a lot of people as a load of rubbish given the level of brain damage this guy has clearly suffered.

 

[mrslong]

I have to agree with Rocky.

I think the NRL needs a rocket up their arse and need to keep these players. They do only care about NRL first, Leagues clubs second and players 3rd.
Of course the fans are last even though we create the revenue. How about they TRY and do something to keep the stars and strengthen the Comp?

I don't see where he said in the article that he was worried about himself in particular? I don't think he's a stain on the game. Except when he takes a dive and stays down, that shit has to go.

 

[mrslong]

by the way I will tell you who I think is a stain on the game: Players that bash their wives, players that take sterroids, players that throw matches.

 

[Coxy]

I think the NRL needs a rocket up their arse and need to keep these players. They do only care about NRL first, Leagues clubs second and players 3rd.
Of course the fans are last even though we create the revenue. How about they TRY and do something to keep the stars and strengthen the Comp?

Don't think anyone disagrees with that.

But Hayne is hardly on struggle street. That's the point. It's not guys like Hayne that miss out in the current situation. It's guys like Hayne that eat up all the third party payments, concessions and marquee payments etc so that the hard working first graders that do all the work for him to do his "magic" that have to go.

The fact he's waving his arms in the air saying "oo look I might go to AFL in 2014" is a fucking disgrace.

 

[mrslong]

I think the NRL needs a rocket up their arse and need to keep these players. They do only care about NRL first, Leagues clubs second and players 3rd.
Of course the fans are last even though we create the revenue. How about they TRY and do something to keep the stars and strengthen the Comp?

Don't think anyone disagrees with that.

But Hayne is hardly on struggle street. That's the point. It's not guys like Hayne that miss out in the current situation. It's guys like Hayne that eat up all the third party payments, concessions and marquee payments etc so that the hard working first graders that do all the work for him to do his "magic" that have to go.

The fact he's waving his arms in the air saying "oo look I might go to AFL in 2014" is a **** disgrace.

yeah he's a dumb dumb, no questions about it. but we need those good players in the game. we need the GI's and the Haynes and the Izzy's. AFL probably set this story up, they're effing genius's. NRL needs to pull the finger out and follow the AFL's lead ffs.

 

[Coxy]

How pray tel would following the AFL lead help? They don't have rival competitions in their own code and two others raiding their players.

Sure, the magic answer is opening the bottomless pit of money to pay NRL players with, but that doesn't exist. AFL has more corporate backing. Rugby Union has more international backing. English league has more pound available, particularly for the "average" first grader.

How does the NRL compete with that? That's the question we all keep hoping the Independent Commission can answer, but frankly I don't think the IC is a magic potion.

 

[mrslong]

Ideally we'd lose the Salary Cap - or increase it to something decent and let the clubs that can't keep up die a natural death (cronulla, i'm looking at you). get the comp competitive, get all the best players in the world back into our comp. and at least let the love of the game draw players. Give Lockyer a Million dollars a season ffs he's worth it.

Let the big money talk. Let the player managers go out and get their stars the big deals.

And while we're at it let's pay the refs more and give them incentives to get the calls right.

At least they could go ahead with the freaking commission. It's been pushed back again. That's not going to work.

Follow the AFL - protect your stars. Treat them like Kings. Go out and make a grab into AFL territory (WA) and smash them, go on the freaking Offense and stop worrying about the Defense.

 

[Coxy]

Ideally we'd lose the Salary Cap - or increase it to something decent and let the clubs that can't keep up die a natural death (cronulla, i'm looking at you). get the comp competitive, get all the best players in the world back into our comp. and at least let the love of the game draw players. Give Lockyer a Million dollars a season ffs he's worth it.

Where is that money going to come from? As it is the Broncos' annual operating profit is ~ $1 million or thereabouts. And they're about the only club that does turn a profit.

Get rid of the salary cap or raise it significantly, where's the money going to come from? Assuming you put it up $2 million, that's an extra $32 million a year the clubs have to find.

Obviously TV rights deals become key, but do we have to rely on that?

Like I said, it's not a magic wand that can produce this kind of money.

The best bet would be to axe Cronulla and either Manly or Melbourne who are propped up by grants and external benefactors. 14 clubs, less to support via NRL grants, can then put the cap up higher.

Though if you axe Melbourne, then you pretty much kill any hopes of further expansion to new markets, anywhere...big call.

 

[dukey]

The fact he's waving his arms in the air saying "oo look I might go to AFL in 2014" is a **** disgrace.

But he's not 'waving his arms in the air' and saying that.
This was from an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. A News Ltd reporter asked him about the AFL and if it held any attraction, and he answered the question. It's not unsolicited Mundine-esque bullshit, it's one part of a full interview that has been isolated and turned into a standalone story.

 

[schmix]

Am I the only one that thinks "NRL (ie rugby league) first, clubs second, players third" makes perfect sense? [icon_shru

Sure, do what you can to keep the players, but not at the expense of the NRL or individual clubs. I have no doubt the powers that be would love to pay our stars more and eliminate the threat of other codes but, like Coxy said, where is this money going to come from?

I just don't get where the criticism of this hierarchy stems from, it seems pretty logical to me.