Hayne v Payne

[Big Pete]

Gallen seems like a great guy off the field, he's just a prick on it.

Also, what do you mean Ennis hasn't performed a cheap shot? Don't you remember Origin 3 where he decided to punch a bloke who was trying to get up to play the footy?

Heck, there was a time where Ennis came in with the knees on Kidley's back in the Round 26 game against the Knights back in 2008.

And that's just off the top of my head.

As for the matter of Hindmarsh/Ennis, I'm prepared to take Hindy and Ennis on their word. To speculate any further would be pointless.

 

[Charmamba]

I like Ennis, but haven't seen the match so can't defend him.

 

[Nashy]

You're right Rocky. Move on.

 

[dukey]

While I am an Ennis fan, here's how I see what's happened:

Hindmarsh seems embarrassed by his own reaction. This indicates to me that he realises it was an overreaction; and that he knows he shouldn't have done it.
If it HAD have been a sledge about his kids etc, I doubt it would be kept this quiet. The media loves to blow up feuds like that. If there were even a rumour that Ennis had badmouthed the kids of the Telegraph's darling Hindmarsh, he'd be all over the sports pages with 'child-hating scum' above his face.

And, finally, why do people think Ennis is a grub? He's quite a clean player. I don't see him working the faces of players in tackles or swinging elbows about a la Gallen etc. I understand people dislike his sledging, but is that really 'grubby'? I'd be more inclined to call him a pest.

 

[Big Pete]

Elbows are all part in parcel of Origin footy and Ennis chose an opportune moment to strike Myles and then hide like a cat.

Kidley was already tackled when Ennis drove in with the knees to his back. It was very dodgy.

 

[Big Pete]

You seriously don't watch a lot of Origin do you? Players let a lot worse go and don't resort to hitting a bloke when he isn't even paying attention to you and then hiding behind a prop forward when you know you've done the wrong thing.

But hey you can keep protecting Ennis from the big bad internet bullies. [icon_confu

 

[Porthoz]

And, finally, why do people think Ennis is a grub? He's quite a clean player. I don't see him working the faces of players in tackles or swinging elbows about a la Gallen etc. I understand people dislike his sledging, but is that really 'grubby'? I'd be more inclined to call him a pest.

Is there a difference really?
Ennis is a coward and wouldn't dare being physical in his niggling. Case in point the last Origin where he buried his head into Snowden's arse!
To me, it's all the same, just grubs being grubs. Ennis belongs in the Bird/Gallen/Gibbs category...

 

[Porthoz]

And, finally, why do people think Ennis is a grub? He's quite a clean player. I don't see him working the faces of players in tackles or swinging elbows about a la Gallen etc. I understand people dislike his sledging, but is that really 'grubby'? I'd be more inclined to call him a pest.

Ennis belongs in the Bird/Gallen/Gibbs category...

LOLZ.

So I take you're the type that thinks that physical abuse is bad, but verbal abuse is ok?
I for one, can't wait until someone punches all of Ennis teeth out of his mouth!
Ennis at his best cowardly behaviour:

 

[Fozz]

Lolz, just noticed that Stayne's "headbutt" on Slater is part of the opening sequence for Sunday Footy,

 

[Big Pete]

Actually, do YOU watch much origin? Origin isn't exactly the place to go if you want to get into a "fair fight".

I've yet to see another player cheap shot a player as they were getting up to play the ball and then hide like a coward. If you don't think that was a cheap shot that's your issue not mine.

Try hard? You're the one with tunnel vision, defending a bloke to the death over an incident you have as much knowledge on as anyone else.

 

[Kaz]

Skip the first 14 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSBvUkq ... re=related

 

[Browny]

Skip the first 14 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSBvUkq ... re=related

My kids have better dust ups lolz

 

[Fozz]

Skip the first 14 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSBvUkq ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovmGj_AMFk

 

[dukey]

And, finally, why do people think Ennis is a grub? He's quite a clean player. I don't see him working the faces of players in tackles or swinging elbows about a la Gallen etc. I understand people dislike his sledging, but is that really 'grubby'? I'd be more inclined to call him a pest.

Is there a difference really?
Ennis is a coward and wouldn't dare being physical in his niggling. Case in point the last Origin where he buried his head into Snowden's arse!
To me, it's all the same, just grubs being grubs. Ennis belongs in the Bird/Gallen/Gibbs category...

To me, a grub is someone who puts on cheap shots in a tackle, like Matt King used to do. If you've made the tackle and you're palming his face into the dirt, scooping mud up and pushing it in his mouth, digging your fingers into his calves, that's grubby.
If the most you ever do is get in someone's ear in a tackle and abuse them, well, there's nothing wrong with that IMO. Ennis's biggest crime is sledging, which isn't grubby. If he belongs in the Bird/Gallen/Gibbs category for that, so does Justin Hodges.

 

[schmix]

I'm not sure how this physical stuff is relevant anyway? Sledging and fighting are two very different things.

 

[schmix]

I dunno, I guess this conversation just got a little off the track I thought it was on. I was only talking about whether Ennis was likely to have said a little more than "have a go". Meh, I'm out.

 

[Porthoz]

I'm not sure how this physical stuff is relevant anyway? Sledging and fighting are two very different things.

Indeed they are.

But if you want to label someone a "grub" then you at least need to back it up with examples of being a "grub" on a physical level. You can't label someone a grub just because they are smart arses sledgers who like the occasional niggle in a tackle. That's not a grub.

Either way, call it what you want. People's definition's might vary, each to their own huh?

But regardless of your definition of a grub, you can't seriously put Ennis in the same category as Gallen, Watough and Bird.

Not if you consider physical abuse as bad as verbal abuse, which I do. Hence my definition of Ennis being a grub, just like the others. And yes, in that definition, so is Hodges.
But at least Hodges doesn't go and hide behind a team mate after a cowardly act!

 

[dukey]

Not if you consider physical abuse as bad as verbal abuse, which I do.

Okay, so in your eyes, there's no difference between, say, Ennis calling Hindmarsh a has-been, and Gallen tearing out Laffranchi's stitches?