Hoppa quits NRL career

The Rock said:
draggx said:
Well, if you feel so strong about it why don't you go and a 2yr mission?

He works his arse off to crack a first grade spot, earns a hefty pay check and then throws it all away for a stupid 2yr mission that i wouldnt be suprised he is only doing because Family and religion pressured him to do it.

What? I don't feel strongly about it, why would I go do it? What a dumb comment.

You think it's stupid because you have no interest in it. It's not stupid for him, he know what he wants to do with his life and good on him.

Spot on.

It's obviously important to him, so I respect his decision. It's not easy to walk away from the amount of money they would've been offering him.
 
There's obviously a lot of pressure put on him by his religion, and that's why religion irks me so much. It pushes people to make dumb decisions, like this.
 
Good on the guy but I'll believe it when I see it.

Seems a bit long these two year missions, why can't they do it while they're playing footy?

Either way good luck to him with what ever he chooses, he's a talent.
 
Coxy said:
There's obviously a lot of pressure put on him by his religion, and that's why religion irks me so much. It pushes people to make dumb decisions, like this.
Why is there "obviously a lot of pressure"?
It is very likely something that he feels he wants to do, not something he's being pressured to do.
I doubt anyone could "pressure him" to lose 100's of thousands of $ unless he genuinely wanted to do the mission.

Life doesn't revolve around money and neither does happiness. If he feels he would be a happier person for doing the mission and missing out on two years then good luck to him, he still has plenty of time to earn money when he comes back.
 
to be fair, there is a lot of pressure in the Mormon church compared to some other religions

for eg: if you don't pay your tithe you get called out in front of the church and have to say why you didn't pay that week
if you want to get married you have to go on the 2 year mission etc
 
Nup, refuse to believe that. Deadset has to be pressure from his religion or he'd not do it. Pressure may not be "do it or you're out" but rather "do it and you'll get magical wonders of enlightenment"...kinda like the 77 virgins for suicide bombers.

You can be pressured into the wrong decision with positive messages.
 
Out of curiosity, what do these "missions" entail? Do they go around helping people or are they doorknocking to convert people?
 
broncospwn said:
Coxy said:
There's obviously a lot of pressure put on him by his religion, and that's why religion irks me so much. It pushes people to make dumb decisions, like this.
Why is there "obviously a lot of pressure"?
It is very likely something that he feels he wants to do, not something he's being pressured to do.
I doubt anyone could "pressure him" to lose 100's of thousands of $ unless he genuinely wanted to do the mission.
If you believe that, then you're very naive. The core of any religion is to captivate as many people as possible and the pressure from family and closer religious figures is imense!
I know what I'm talking about coming from a weird religious family (half Catholics, half JW)... :roll:
 
To those who are defending his decision, don't come posting here, when the mormons knock on your door. (while dragging their children with them for the sympathy hearing) :P

When they ask for water, tell them where the local shop is. [icon_evillaugh
 
Scotty said:
Out of curiosity, what do these "missions" entail? Do they go around helping people or are they doorknocking to convert people?

http://www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm

Heaps of info there and tbh i couldnt read past.

Once we get pretty advanced in the game God might push the envelope on this and command us to do something totally bizarre and immoral such as killing our children (Genesis 22:2), but most of us never reach that level.
 
draggx said:
Scotty said:
Out of curiosity, what do these "missions" entail? Do they go around helping people or are they doorknocking to convert people?

http://www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm

Heaps of info there and tbh i couldnt read past.

Once we get pretty advanced in the game God might push the envelope on this and command us to do something totally bizarre and immoral such as killing our children (Genesis 22:2), but most of us never reach that level.
This is in pretty much any "holy book" in various forms... Not so explicitly worded though! [eusa_doh
 
Ok skimming through that link i must say.

Mormons are fucked up.
 
draggx said:
Scotty said:
Out of curiosity, what do these "missions" entail? Do they go around helping people or are they doorknocking to convert people?

http://www.lds4u.com/Missionaries/rules.htm

Heaps of info there and tbh i couldnt read past.

Once we get pretty advanced in the game God might push the envelope on this and command us to do something totally bizarre and immoral such as killing our children (Genesis 22:2), but most of us never reach that level.

Some of the things listed on there are ridiculous beyond belief [eusa_doh
 
Yes the Mormon faith is quite a strange one, it's out there. It all stems from the special undies imo.
 
I wonder why Ben Hannant didn't do this.

He probably loved the cash more. [icon_razz1
 
Porthoz said:
broncospwn said:
Coxy said:
There's obviously a lot of pressure put on him by his religion, and that's why religion irks me so much. It pushes people to make dumb decisions, like this.
Why is there "obviously a lot of pressure"?
It is very likely something that he feels he wants to do, not something he's being pressured to do.
I doubt anyone could "pressure him" to lose 100's of thousands of $ unless he genuinely wanted to do the mission.
If you believe that, then you're very naive. The core of any religion is to captivate as many people as possible and the pressure from family and closer religious figures is imense!
I know what I'm talking about coming from a weird religious family (half Catholics, half JW)... :roll:
It's an interesting discussion actually.
Personally I get close to zero pressure and both my parents are pretty religious but doesn't affect me at all.

Honestly there is no way I would do a two year "mission" of any sort let alone miss out on two years of big money for it as well.

He must be pretty committed to even consider it. Hannant doesn't seem interested but then again it is all about the money for him so it's not surprising.

I think it's a pretty weird religion, some of the stuff they do, including giving 10% of earnings to the church and 2 year missions but as long as they're not getting in anyones way then good luck to them. They would have loved Folau earning 1.5m a year in the AFL.
 
Kaz said:
I wonder why Ben Hannant didn't do this.

He probably loved the cash more. [icon_razz1
Well are you sure he didn't? He's married eusa_think Pretty sure they have to do the mission before they get married, otherwise they aren't married in heaven [icon_shru
 

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