Kalyn Ponga re-signs with Newcastle

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I've seen a bit of discussion across the forum and thought this would be a more suitable location.

It's a fascinating story on a few fronts.

First you have Kalyn Ponga himself. It's not everyday you see stories written about 15-year old GPS Rugby players but Ponga was such an exceptional talent that he demanded the attention. He attracted interest from the NRL, AFL and Super Rugby before linking up with the Cowboys.

At the time it seemed odd he would spurn the Broncos to join the Cowboys but the family presented it as a homecoming so it seemed like they had his best interests at heart. While there's a risk to offering a 15-year old that would guarantee them Top 25 player money at a certain stage, Ponga shaped as one of those rare exceptions.

For a year it was one of those stories Rugby League fans kept in the back of their mind, but when 2015 rolled around many expected Ponga to set the MM Cup alright. The issue was there was no Kalyn Ponga. As it turned out Ponga had suffered a mysterious brain illness that had kept him sidelined for the better part of the season. For a moment there, it appeared that Ponga maybe another cautionary schoolboy tale.

Fast-forward to 2016, Ponga played a trialled against the Broncos and looked very impressive for an 18-year old. The collective Rugby League world drew a relieving breath and big things were expected ahead of the NYC season. However Ponga just didn't have the impact fans expected him to. There was this thought that he'd be the new Trbojevic or Barba just lighting the competition up but he was merely a good player in a good Cowboys NYC team. One could even argue he paled in comparison to Brandon Smith who was a weapon close to the line.

Once again doubt surrounded Ponga's career projections. However he was called into play the Broncos in an Elimination Semi and was one of the most dangerous players on the park in a famous victory over their rivals. It just seemed like Ponga needed that extra challenge to be motivated and he was going to live up to the hype.

It seemed like the Cowboys had found the heir to JT and all was right in the Rugby League world. Then within weeks, Ponga spurned the Cowboys and was off to the Knights on a monster deal. The move shocked everyone, but as details emerged it didn't paint Ponga in the best light. Supposedly Ponga was going to walk out on the code altogether to take the Lions up on their deal before the Knights came to the table with a ridiculous deal. Usually players would mull it over and work with the club to give them every opportunity to compete, but Ponga seemingly jumped at the deal.

One of the stories that did the rounds is how the Cowboys sold Ponga on re-signing with the club. Green presented Ponga with this vision where Ponga would come into the team, focus on his role at fullback and play off the back of JT. They weren't going to rush his development or give him too much responsibility he was going to learn to be a selfless player before becoming a leader. That pitch didn't interest Ponga, he wanted to be the team and have that freedom to fail which is why he went to the Knights.

To this day, it's still difficult to tell whether Ponga made a mistake. Paul Green famously went down with the ship, staying loyal to the same players that brought him success in 2015 and failing to bring through the likes of Brandon Smith, Viliame Kikau etc. among others. But if the story is true, the pitch was more than reasonable from Green and had Ponga's best interests at heart.

It brings me to another point about marquee talent. Rugby League fans have this vision that the game would be great if the best 16 players all represented 16 different clubs and everything was even around the competition. There's nothing wrong with that vision mind you, but there is the other perspective that some clubs simply cannot get the best out of their players. That as a code we rob ourselves when a James Tedesco or Roger Tuivasa-Sheck comfortably miss the finals year after year.

Now I wouldn't call Ponga a lost cause. He's still a good player but there's some obvious flaws in his game that he doesn't appear to be interested in fixing.

It's on Ponga, but it's also on Newcastle as well who still haven't found their footing yet and are constantly just signing stop-gap players. They have Anthony Milford coming into their team, potentially a good value signing but I fail to see how it helps them build as a team going forward. Newcastle have to treat the next five years as a premiership window, otherwise it's an utter waste.
 
The more you read about the whole situation the worse Ponga and his father look. According to reports, they made up their mind to stay in newcastle 2 weeks ago and didnt have the decency to tell the other party they were negotiating with.
 
Kent also made a good point. Apparently he decided to stay with Newcastle after meeting with Wayne. In his pitch, Wayne challenged him. As in you can stay here and just keep doing what you're doing or you can come to the Phins, be coached by me, be a part of what we're building there and take your game to the next level. Bit of a red flag I think
 
Kent also made a good point. Apparently he decided to stay with Newcastle after meeting with Wayne. In his pitch, Wayne challenged him. As in you can stay here and just keep doing what you're doing or you can come to the Phins, be coached by me, be a part of what we're building there and take your game to the next level. Bit of a red flag I think

For Wayne or Ponga?
 
Maybe Wayne basically told him if he takes the Phins offer he will be under a lot of pressure and it will either make or break him. I'd have taken the Newcastle deal. Its great money and over a long time.
 
Dobbo last night said the Dolphins offered way less cash than the Knights, because he is not their must-have, they are all in on Munster.
 
For Wayne or Ponga?

Yeah come on harry, I am as curious as sproj. What red flag? Bennett is desperate and narcissistic or Ponga is stupid?

Exactly what Morkel said really. It seems like he was put off by Wayne challenging him to better himself. Although if what Wolfie said is true, it could just have been about the money which wouldn't surprise me with Ponga. In which case, why not announce it 2 weeks ago?
 
Personally, I say the Knights are more than welcome to the Ponga circus. The sloppy way his father conducted these negotiations highlights just how close one player can come to blowing up a whole club's reputation.

If Pong had decided to jump to the Dolphins it would have been seriously damaging to the Knights coaching staff and the club as a whole. We don't want players like that with that sort of baggage anywhere near our club.

Unfotunately, neither Munster or Walsh are exactly cleanskins either.
 
Exactly what Morkel said really. It seems like he was put off by Wayne challenging him to better himself. Although if what Wolfie said is true, it could just have been about the money which wouldn't surprise me with Ponga. In which case, why not announce it 2 weeks ago?
I don’t really buy into that Kent comment. I think Ponga went wherever his dad told him too
 
The other side of the coin is that Newcastle had little choice.

Sure, they'd have a $1,000,000 to spend and maybe by 2025 there will be a good player to attract but in the short term the move could have been catastrophic for the club. Their only hope would be to sign Cameron Munster and there was no guarantee that was going to happen. Even so, there's also no guarantee they'd get a great return of investment since Munster is nearing the end of his career and has his share of baggage.

So they release Ponga, realistically they maybe able to interest Scott Drinkwater, Corey Allan, Charnze Nicoll-Klokstead or Kaeo Weekes into breaking their contract early but you're relying on other parties to come to the table and they don't have to. Furthermore, none of them carry the cache Ponga does and you're going to have a difficult time explaining to managers how their clients are going to gain value in your system if you can't sell them on big name players.

Essentially you just become the new Wests Tigers. You over-pay on rookie prospects, they get their quick cash-in, get some experience and if they're any good other clubs will come along and pay them decent coin where they can extend their careers and potentially retire on a fat desperation deal from a desperate club that needs that "premiership experience".

Now a decision like this would have been tougher a few years ago when the game had a decent supply of players coming through. However the pandemic has really eaten away at the reserves and we've got players who are a good year or two off where they should be in their development. The player agents know they have clubs over the barrel and the clubs simply have to take it on the chin.

Unfortunately for the Knights they can't really promote from within either. Their options at this stage are Tex Hoy who at best is a decent utility option and Bailey Hodgson who is a development player from the UK who has barely played due to injury these past two seasons. When you scroll further there's McKenzie Baker the former North Queensland product who hasn't set the world on fire at QCup, David Armstrong who is only just beginning to turn heads in Flegg and Fletcher Sharpe who has only risen to prominence recently after scoring 6 tries against a hapless Dragons outfit.
 

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