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IT 2. Could have been so much better, but the payoff for every genuinely creepy moment was a crappy CGI chase - over and over again. Lazy. It had it's moments, some of the performances were good but overall it looks like the film makers took the easy, cheap option.

There is a little bit more going on symbolically in the film for anyone that's into that sort of thing. The three dead lights for example, the concept of three lights as a symbol of death goes back a ways in art and what not. And a few back and forths between IT and Twin Peaks are of interest too.

Worth a watch, don't expect too much.
You're right about the ending and they did take the cheap way out but overall as a sequel I thought it was quite good. I didn't go in expecting much tbh but IT surprised on the upside.
It was a bit long though.

On a side note I've never watched Twin Peaks so I didn't pick up that reference but Stephen King did like reference his other books from time to time.
In the Tommy Knockers he referenced IT which is one example that springs to mind.
 
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You're right about the ending and they did take the cheap way out but overall as a sequel I thought it was quite good. I didn't go in expecting much tbh but IT surprised on the upside.
It was a bit long though.

On a side note I've never watched Twin Peaks so I didn't pick up that reference but Stephen King did like reference his other books from time to time.
In the Tommy Knockers he referenced IT which is one example that springs to mind.
I watched the first one last night and I thought it was much better, when the inevitable super cut comes out it will be interesting - and long.

My main issue with the second one was I thought it blew a lot of the build up of tension and eeriness with cheap and not scary CGI chases. A lot of the atmosphere of the first was gone but overall it was good, worth seeing for sure.

The red balloons make an appearance in the new season of Twin Peaks, as well as the prominence of the number seven, similarities between Derry and Twin Peaks, the town itself.
The sort of big bad in Twin Peaks is also comparable to Pennywise in a few ways.

The thing that makes IT scary to me (jump scares don't get me) is the psychological elements, namely the red balloons. It's a psychological concept to do with conditioning trauma responses, for the end purpose of feeding on the resulting fear, which is also a concept in Twin Peaks, garmonbozia, which the evil elements in the show consume. So some interesting cross over themes and perhaps intentional nods. Highly recommend Twin Peaks.
 

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I’m totally not reading any comments on ‘IT’. Doing my best to ignore them until I see for myself this Friday. I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and I thought the first chapter was realised reasonably well. I’m a bit concerned after unwittingly reading the first sentence or two of holdzy89 holdzy89 and Dexter Dexter ’s reviews, but I’ll reflect once I’ve seen it and add my own thoughts.

If it feels cheap and lazily done, I’ll be pissed off majorly. It was the highest grossing horror film of all time IIRC and really has no excuse to **** it up when it’s made so much money on the first chapter.
 
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holdzy89

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soup soup did you see IT 2?

I watched Parasite last night, Korean movie that's getting lots of praise at the moment. All deserved, it's incredible.
 

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soup soup did you see IT 2?

I watched Parasite last night, Korean movie that's getting lots of praise at the moment. All deserved, it's incredible.
Yeah mate I did, I’ve just been working so much lately that I’ve forgotten to post on it.

I thought it was pretty good for the most part and I mean that in a purely entertainment way. Yeah there were some plot issues and structural rhythms that could have been improved, but I loved the whole easter egg situation with King having a go at Bill about writing shitty endings! I thought that was a nice touch and a nod to the film’s alteration of the conclusion, though I wanted to see Maturin, who never showed. I walked out pretty happy overall. The acting was much better than the first IT, and the cast were great (believable in my opinion). I do think there was opportunity to split the movie into a trilogy and explore some of the more gritty themes a bit more, but I’m not too fussy.

Now I just want a Dark Tower TV Series to come out that pays respect to the books. Apparently Amazon have the rights and are working on it, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
 
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holdzy89

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Finally got around to watching Under The Silver Lake, I think at Big Pete's recommendation.

The **** did I just watch?
 

Big Pete

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It comes down to your interpretation.

It's either a movie about Hollywood being more like a cult that abuses young actress' at the behest of rich and powerful men or a young men's descent into madness.
 

holdzy89

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It comes down to your interpretation.

It's either a movie about Hollywood being more like a cult that abuses young actress' at the behest of rich and powerful men or a young men's descent into madness.

Both I'd say. There's a meditation on artistic value and interpretation in there somewhere too I thought.

Definitely needs another watch. I enjoyed it for the most part - some parts were a little on the nose (a director making sure we know who he was influenced by).
 

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I thought the Kubrick references fit the tone of the movie and added to the surreal quality it was going for. There were others but I can't recall any detracting from the movie, even the nod to Spiderman gave Garfield's character some depth. It's been awhile but I only remember the movie hinting at him being a former actor who was chewed up and spat out by the machine.

But that's why I recommended it. There's a lot to unpack and if nothing else it's an enjoyable mystery with a surprisingly well done pay off.

Speaking of similar shows about mentally disturbed people solving mysteries, you should give Undone an opportunity.
 

holdzy89

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I thought the Kubrick references fit the tone of the movie and added to the surreal quality it was going for. There were others but I can't recall any detracting from the movie, even the nod to Spiderman gave Garfield's character some depth. It's been awhile but I only remember the movie hinting at him being a former actor who was chewed up and spat out by the machine.

But that's why I recommended it. There's a lot to unpack and if nothing else it's an enjoyable mystery with a surprisingly well done pay off.

Speaking of similar shows about mentally disturbed people solving mysteries, you should give Undone an opportunity.
Well done pay off would is subjective of course. It's a very Lynch-ian ending, sort of mundane in contrast to the more surreal parts of the movie, the quest both seeming like a waste of time and something cathartic.

They didn't detract necessarily, but some editing and shot choices were a little self conscious, for mine it's a way of the director saying 'if you are confused, here's some references'. An enjoyable mystery though and lots to think about if you are a willing viewer. As always, the colours are clues.

Disturbed people solving mysteries - is that a genre? It needs it's own Netflix section.
 

Big Pete

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Considering the fine line it was riding, I thought it did a good job of serving both camps. Either Sam uncovered a horrible secret and lived but couldn't tell the tale or he came to terms with his mental state and stopped looking for clues which is why he didn't press his neighbour about the parrot.

I appreciated it because a lot of movies would have leaned too heavily one way or just left it ambiguous which seems pretty common in this genre.
 

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Holy shit - intense is the word. Highly reccomended.
It certainly is intense, but not for the faint of heart or those that don’t like Arthouse movies. So many metaphors!
Just watched this on Friday night, and searched the thread to see if anyone had seen it.

I am no movie expert, but this one was bloody interesting. Had me thinking the whole time, and still thinking after it was over! Very different to the usual Hollywood crap I watch haha.
 

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Speaking of odd movies, I watched Yesterday...yesterday.

An extremely boring idea for a film, the world forgets the Beatles existed, yet it was done with good humour and a likeable lead. It was quite funny and entertaining, just don't think too logn about it, there is a lot to pick apart if you really want to.

I also watched Downton Abbey. I was a fan of the series, it was pretty to watch and Maggie Smith constantly stole the show. Most characters had pretty good depth though and the acting was top notch.

This movie just seemed to miss something. I seemed really weirdly paced and seemed to have five different ending scenes. Some changes in how it was put together could have solved that quite easily, particularly one big character reveal that should have happened at the start and shown the family dealing more heavily with that throughout as opposed to what was an extremely boring choice of focus.

It also seemed that some of the characters had completely changed from where they left off at the end of the excellent series.
 

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Scorcese. De Niro. Pesci. Pacino...and Ray Romano.

 
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