Nah, it's not. Because even our fastests speeds are absolutely nothing compared to most countries on this Earth.

I get it though. If you'd rather build a cheap and nasty roof at your house because it hasn't rained in year, that's your prerogative. But don't complain when you have to rebuild parts of the roof because you didn't think about the possibility of it raining in the future.

You're all about saving money, but you suggest a plan which is going to cost more money, then admit as such, then jump back on an invalid argument from two years ago.

You're cray. Sometimes I think you argue just to give your fingers a work out.

 

The copper network is a bit older than that... and it is definitely NOT perfectly functional.

Do you deliberately ignore the fact that any other country who started FTTN, stopped and went over to FTTP? They must all be really stupid.

You forget or ignore what a better, faster interwebs means for Australian business and economy. Having a fast reliable connection to every home in Australia means that large multinationals that rely and need (or will soon need) those connections, will invest in the Australian market. Having a technology that is now already touted as obsolete is the opposite of a draw card for those companies to invest here (and there are many more of them than you think!).

 

Well they are separate networks. One of which is century old technology. Perhaps given your standards of Internet, you simply don't realise the need, because you're so used to the shit that you're being served, you see the awful "good" ADSL2+ speeds and thing, wow, what a time to be alive.

Like Port said, and you ignored. Your idea of having someone pay to run fibre from the exchange down the street isn't fair on the people you're going to make pay for it, given everyone after that don't have to pay, as the cable is already there.

I am not against your fibre to the pit idea, and residents pay to replace their copper.

 

Eh? FTTN won't require upgrades for many, many generations. And even then, the same fiber will be able to be used. Their connections aren't all the way back either.

The fiber runs down the street, and they look into that from the pit to the house. It's bascially the same setup as copper, with different cable in the ground.

The issue with the money is that we are doing backhaul work, and digging, but not running the cable up the street, so later, we will need to come back, dig it up, rip out all the bits that convert it from fiber to copper, replace it with fiber, then pay to get more of those little conversion boxes (I don't know the name) and install them on every house not committed to paying for a couple meters of fiber, which then costs more money. We are then operating two different types of connections again.

Our providers need to train to support both straight fiber, and VDSL (copper setup). That's customer care costs, equipment costs, the costs of different modems and devices, marketing different networks, technicians to be trained in both diagnosis, and fixing, equipment to test etc.

Then the question is, who is responsible for the copper? You can be sure as hell NBN Co don't want anything to do with it, and you can be certain Telstra won't give a shit once the copper network is shut down completely. So now we need techs and electricians who can work on the 100+ year technology. May not sound like a big deal now, but in 10, 20 odd years time when those who are working on it, have very little training on it, you will see the issues.

 

That ship will either turn or sink coming Saturday! :thefinger:

 

I don't think they would. They would still patch it. But we are yet to find out.

 

I just upgraded my modem/router to a Netgear D7000 Nighthawke. The shitty Huawei that TPG gives you is rubbish, and doesn't have a good enough WiFi spec to achieve my full 100Mbps, and the missus got pretty over the modem and router on the bench deal.




It's getting me better speeds, and the rang is far better now. I was going to run with the D7800, but there are heaps of reports of sync issues on FTTN NBN.
[MENTION=1848]ningnangnong[/MENTION] - Pretty good deal. Head to Officeworks, get them to match MSY (Show them they are in stock in their stores) and you will save yourself nearly $100. Picked it up for $274.55. Bargain.

 

Boooo