NRL Injury Discussion - 2019

broncos4life

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Dobbo (drink) says Inglis will announce his immediate retirement. And he’ll forfeit his contract so Souths don’t have to carry it on the cap.
Surely the NRL won’t let players ‘forfeit’ their contract? I don’t believe for a second he won’t get that money, it will just get it another way. What a rort.
 

mitch222

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Surely the NRL won’t let players ‘forfeit’ their contract? I don’t believe for a second he won’t get that money, it will just get it another way. What a rort.
Few dollars under the table from rusty won’t go a stray
Plus the nrl will give him some token aboriginal ambassador job
 

Porthoz

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Genuine question. Will Inglis cap burden remain in the club's salary cap books, even if Inglis forfeits the money? I seem to remember something of that ilk happening...

FTR, I don't think it should and it sucks for both Inglis and Souths if he has to retire, especially if Bennett's concerns about GI's mental health are warranted.
 

teampjta

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Genuine question. Will Inglis cap burden remain in the club's salary cap books, even if Inglis forfeits the money? I seem to remember something of that ilk happening...

FTR, I don't think it should and it sucks for both Inglis and Souths if he has to retire, especially if Bennett's concerns about GI's mental health are warranted.
From what’s been reported, if he quits then no,
 

broncos4life

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Are you telling me we wouldn't do the same?
No, and that’s the point isn’t it. Clubs shouldn’t be given a very easy way to flaunt the rules. Take Boyd for example, if he chooses to retire before his contract runs out we should have to wear that for making a stupid decision to sign him for that long.

If this is allowed to happen it will just open the door to sign veterans on long term contracts that they will retire from and ‘forfeit’ their money.
 

Foordy

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Can't someone be medically retired and thus have their contract paid out? That's what happened to Watmough right?
I think the Eels tried to do that ... but it was ruled a pre-existing injury and the request was denied
 

Galah

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There has to be a cap penalty if there isn’t a legitimate career ending injury...this opens up whole new level of salary cap rorting. Better be watching his bank account to make sure he isn’t getting any lump sums.... what’s to stop teams offering someone who only really has 2 years left in them 500k a year for 5 years, knowing full well he isn’t going to make it but he’s worth way more then 500k a year.

The nhl did it a couple of years ago even if they retire (not from injury) the player looses the money but there is also a cap recapture for the team, It put a stop to teams giving out ridiculous long contracts well past a normal playing age bracket.
 

Renegade

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There has to be a cap penalty if there isn’t a legitimate career ending injury...this opens up whole new level of salary cap rorting. Better be watching his bank account to make sure he isn’t getting any lump sums.... what’s to stop teams offering someone who only really has 2 years left in them 500k a year for 5 years, knowing full well he isn’t going to make it but he’s worth way more then 500k a year.

The nhl did it a couple of years ago even if they retire (not from injury) the player looses the money but there is also a cap recapture for the team, It put a stop to teams giving out ridiculous long contracts well past a normal playing age bracket.
eh, I don't have a problem with it. It's entertainment for us but it's their bodies, their livelihoods post career. I don't think it's morally right to be like oh well, on the scrap heap you go, NEXT!
 

Porthoz

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eh, I don't have a problem with it. It's entertainment for us but it's their bodies, their livelihoods post career. I don't think it's morally right to be like oh well, on the scrap heap you go, NEXT!
I don't think this is about the players receiving their dues or genuine retirement like seems to be the case for Inglis. It's about the potential for cap rorting.

Player X plans on retiring in 2 years. Instead of offering him a 2 years contract at $1M /year, offer a 4 years contract at $500K / year. You end up spending the same money over a longer period, but it gives you an extra $500K cap space for the first 2 years.
 

Renegade

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I don't think this is about the players receiving their dues or genuine retirement like seems to be the case for Inglis. It's about the potential for cap rorting.

Player X plans on retiring in 2 years. Instead of offering him a 2 years contract at $1M /year, offer a 4 years contract at $500K / year. You end up spending the same money over a longer period, but it gives you an extra $500K cap space for the first 2 years.
Perhaps they cap it at 50%, so 50% is still applicable to the cap and the other is exempt.
Rorting is going to happen no matter what, obviously we should minimize it where we can but I think we need to look out for players interests first and foremost.
 

Galah

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I don't think this is about the players receiving their dues or genuine retirement like seems to be the case for Inglis. It's about the potential for cap rorting.

Player X plans on retiring in 2 years. Instead of offering him a 2 years contract at $1M /year, offer a 4 years contract at $500K / year. You end up spending the same money over a longer period, but it gives you an extra $500K cap space for the first 2 years.
you articulated it better. This was my point thanks.
 

Super Freak

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Te Maire Martin is out indefinitely after scans revealed a small bleed on the brain.

Poor bugger. They don't know if it's football related. The Cowboys have said it's not career-threatening so he shouldn't have to retire.
 

Dexter

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Curtis Scott is being investigated by the integrity unit in what Paul Kent said was "a delicate matter" in his personal life.
Some stuff doing the rounds on social media.
 

mitch222

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From what I’ve read he turned up drunk to training after breaking up with his missus
 

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