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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Cult3, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. mitch222

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    Anyone get the feeling they are going to have Orton drop the title to Wyatt at Payback so he can take the title to RAW seeing how Lesnar only shows up once every two months and they really don't have a fighting champion at the moment. Smackdown got beat down this week with Jinder Mahal the number one contender. They have fallen way off from AJ/Orton/Wyatt/Cena in the title frame.
    They need a few changes. Make Owens drop to Corbin and get him around the main event. Corbin/Ziggler/Zayn/Rawley can go for the US title. Owens/Styles/Orton for the main title. Team Rowan and Harper up for tag titles push against American Alpha, Usos, Colons. I have no idea how you book Nakamura. He isn't great on the mic and the fan following will die down soon when they realise this. You can only be a weirdo for so long before they tire of it
    They really should have moved Balor to smackdown. He could main event there with AJ in decent matches and maybe for control of the Bullett Club with Gallows & Anderson. He wont get the title of Lesnar
     
  2. I don't, largely because having two World Champions on the same brand would take away from Roman beating Brock Lesnar which is the plan right now.

    The WWE locker room has a high opinion of Randy Orton as a worker, and I can't see him dropping the belt back to Bray after beating him at Wrestlemania.

    I'm willing to give them time. SmackDown has consistently been one of the best shows the WWE has produced in years and they've got a good track record of getting the best out of everyone on the roster.

    I'd be shocked if Orton/Mahal main events Backlash. I can see it being a co-main event with it taking a back-seat either to a Nakamura or AJ Styles match.

    Just keep it simple. I don't think there's going to be a sophisticated formula, so just book Nakamura against guys who can work, save his matches for special events and see how he goes. It either gets over or it doesn't.
     
  3. Foordy

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    I don't really get what they are doing with the Strowman vs Reigns storyline ...

    3 weeks ago they had Strowman attack him from behind, then when he was on the stretcher and finally tipping over the ambulance.

    then at payback the had the match (with reigns coming out with his torso and shoulder completely bandaged) getting him to put up a gallant fight before losing. then after the match they have Strowman attack Reigns with the steel steps until he is spitting up blood, before again trying to attack him while he is being helped into the ambulance.

    i don't see the point or the value in the storyline
     
  4. Browny

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    It's making all the fans of Roman have epic sooks tho lol

    Reigns will come back defeat Braun and the Beast to win the Universal title. Oh and Vince will end up like the SouthPark jizz meme
     
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    And another WM will end with 80,000 booing Reigns out of the building.
     
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    I don't get the Roman Reigns hate at all.

    There are a dozen wrestlers on the roster worse than he is.

    I think his performances have definitely improved over the last 12 months. Not great by any means, but the hate is ridiculous.
     
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    Shoved down throats Cena style. If they had let Daniel Bryan have his time, then Reigns would have gotten over big time after that.
     
  8. Foordy

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    Backlash was weird IMO

    the Tag Title match was one of the stupidest things I have seen in a WWE ring (especially in a title match)

    I didn't like the way the US title match ended

    and I seriously don't get giving Jinder Mahal the WWE Title
     
  9. mitch222

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    I wonder who Mr America is going to be? This is what they are setting up for
     
  10. Cult3

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    Jinder winning the title is an attempt to get coverage in India. The possible market over there is huge. I just wish there was a better build. He definitely looks the part but its hard to forget his past as a jobber.

    If they ran with him being a peaceful and not wanting to hurt anyone but had the Bollywood Boys doing his bidding for a few months, then have him snap on someone like AJ and he would probably be more legitimate. Although you tend to see midcard wrestlers elevated directly after Wrestlemania. Guys like Ziggler have got their title pushes around that time too.
     
  11. It really did come at a strange time. The week before he won the no. 1 contender match, he got destroyed by Sami Zayn on raw. It really seems like an overnight decision.

    You could still get similar exposure for him winning the US title and you can build him from there. But to go from a jobber one week to World champ the next is pretty crazy.
     
  12. Cult3

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    I'm really worried that this is going to lead to a Jinder Mahal VS Mojo Rawley title match. Fuck Mojo Rawley.
     
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    Chris Jericho vs Kenny Omega at Wrestle Kingdom 12. Not sure how I feel about it. Omega is massively overrated and NJPW has the worst fan base in wrestling. The wrestlers no-sell everything and kick out of 17 finishers and in my opinion make wrestling look far more unrealistic than it should.

    On the other hand Jericho is my favourite wrestler ever and I'm over seeing him put over every wrestler under the sun (fucking fandango at Wrestlemania). I'm curious how this will change the wrestling scene. Jericho has a great relationship with McMahon and the WWE but I can't imagine Vince is too happy about this. Will we see more wwe stars cross over? Or will there be a working relationship between WWE and NJPW?
     
  14. Browny

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    WWE is bleeding talent and pushing the part timers.

    The way they’ve booked shinsuke is a perfect example of misusing talent that is massively over.

    The Shield reunion didn’t need to happen as it’s purely to get Reigns over.
     
  15. Cult3

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    I was never really a fan of Shinsuke. I keep seeing people say he isn't being used right but literally nobody has said how they'd push a weird, eccentric, old looking Japanese dude who can barely string a sentence together in English. I've been waiting ages to hear how it would be done.

    With the Neville thing, he absolutely can not complain about not getting a push. The bloke was made the face of a new division and should have pushed himself to build it instead of acting like he's too good for it. Before it he was doing nothing and the WWE made him relevant again.

    The WWE might be bleeding talent but they're also signing guys like Donovan Dijak, Lio Rush, Adam Cole, Tommy End, Pete Dunne, Kairi Hojo and with Lucha Underground finishing up I can see them signing guys like Ricochet soon too. They need a kick in the ass and Jericho to NJPW is big push in the right direction. I just know Omega is going to kick out of 7 codebreakers because that's the style of wrestling they do over in Japan.
     
  16. Foordy

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    IMO, both brands have world champion's that they shouldn't.

    Brock Lesner, while making a good champion, is a part timer. and the champion, imo, should be a guy who shows up on raw everyu week ... not only to do a few promo's before the PPV, hell he wasn't even scheduled for the last PPV (TLC)

    Jinder Mahal, this is a guy who was a jobber before literally becoming a contender then champion overnight
     
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    Vince is getting out of control lol
     
  18. Cult3

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    Absolutely. Lesnar needs to fuck off or show up every week. Shinsuke could use Heyman as a manager and he'd be over in a second. Jinder would have been an alright champion but the build to him winning it was so random and made no sense. We didn't get enough time to take him seriously because we still remember him as a jobber.
     
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    The man is a genius when he's pushed to use his brain. Hopefully that push is coming from NJPW and he can get his shit together. The WWE needs a massive overhaul. They have the talent, they just need to use them correctly.

    More tournaments. The G1 special lets NJPW talent get over by showing their skills with the only storyline being they want to be the best. WWE could do this a lot better. Cruiserweight, UK, Dusty Rhodes Tag team Classic, women's, hardcore, Mexican, Japanese etc. I feel like if they want to push the product to India letting 16 local wrestlers fight it out in a tournament for a WWE contract would be awesome.

    More WWE 24/7 specials. People enjoy seeing the private lives of these guys and what it's like at the performance centre. Showing these brings an emotional element to the product and shows that guys like Vince and Hunter aren't the monsters people make them out to be.

    They have a three hour Raw , a two hour show Smackdown, one hour NXT, one hour Superstars, hours of a live events each week. Let them wrestle for fucks sake.

    PG sucks. I'm not saying there's a need to return to the days of the attitude era but surely they can meet somewhere in the middle. Wrestling is violet. They're fighting each other. Let the stories be a little bit more adult every so often.
     
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    Royal Rumble season is upon us!

    RR is probably my favourite PPV and this year there's 2. Usually it's unpredictable and there's a lot of surprises. The last few years have been the opposite of that. But this year I think might be different. It's been rumoured that Reigns will win and face Lesnar at Wrestlemania, but surely the WWE aren't that stupid. If Reigns wins the crowd might literally burn down the building. Styles and Lesnar should leave with their championships so they won't be involved in the Rumble.

    Surprises:
    Batista
    Rey Mysterio
    Neville
    Daniel Bryan
    Pete Dunne
    Drew McIntyre (If he isn't still injured)


    Who I'd like to see win:
    Chad Gable- I fucking love Gable. He's hilarious and those delayed suplexes are incredible. He lifted Big E like he was nothing. It's too soon for him to win though.
    Daniel Bryan- They've been teasing a return too much for it to not happen. He's either wrestling for WWE or leaving and wrestling elsewhere. WWE aren't stupid enough to tease it and have him wrestle for NJPW.
    Braun Strowman- Seriously who could eliminate him? They're teasing him VS Lesnar anyway and he's a crowd favourite. Imagine him winning the title at Mania?

    I'm a little bit excited about the Women's Rumble. Apparently Ronda Rousey is a good chance to win it but Asuka needs to so she seems legitimate. At this point Charlotte Flair is so above everyone its hard to take anyone else seriously. There might be a few surprises too. Trish Stratus, Kharma, Eve Torres, Kaitlyn, Melina, Victoria and my favourite, Peyton Royce hopefully get a spot.
     

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