Real reason Dave Taylor left the Broncos

[Twiztid]

Hi guys,

This is from a rogue Rabbitohs website and these guys are pretty good sometimes with information. This just popped up and seeing as it is Broncos related thought you guys might want to discuss.

The truth to the story is in there somewhere.

It's trendy at the 'New Souths' to say that all of our signings have jumped aboard the Rabbitoh express train because Russell Crowe has turned the club around. But this is mere hype and certainly wasn't true in the case of Dave Taylor.

In late 2008 the Broncos were negotiating to sign the massive forward. He wasn't in enormous demand because Bennett considered him a 40-50 minute player who had a lot of flaws in his play. Taylor's fitness was another issue.

For those reasons, the Broncos only signed Taylor for a year.

Part of the negotiations involved discussion of a $50,000 third-party agreement for Taylor. However, the club's version of what happened conflicts with what Taylor and his manager Col Davis allege.

According to the Bronco chief executive, Bruno Cullen, he told Davis to negotiate the agreement for Taylor with a sponsor suggested by the club. Cullen maintains that negotiating the deal was a matter for Davis. Because he was never advised by Davis that a deal was struck, Cullen says he didn't lodge the information with the NRL seeking ratification.

But Davis maintains that a third-party deal was struck for Taylor to be a "trainee" with a sponsor associated with the club. Davis said that Taylor was paid an initial $10,000, but was still owed $40,000 during 2009. Because Cullen was a party to the negotiation, David maintained, the Broncos had effectively guaranteed the contract and was responsible for the debt.

The NRL was advised of the dispute. If the 3rd-party agreement had in fact existed it would have been a breach of Salary Cap Rules because the Broncos had not sought approval of it. Further, if Taylor was paid the $10,000 as alleged by his manager, it should have been included by the Broncos in the cap.

David Gallop was indifferent about whether any action would be taken, saying that he was happy with the information he had so far been given.

This dispute simmered between Taylor and the Broncos during the 2009 season. Many believe it to be the reason that Taylor appeared unmotivated during the early months.

Taylor signed with Souths on 13 May 2009. His manager says that the third-party dispute with the Broncos was a "factor" in Taylor leaving the Broncos and signing with Souths.

Souths signed Taylor for $750,000 over three years.

The Taylor-Broncos dispute coincided with a Brisbane District Court case in which 36 criminal charges against former Queensland Beattie goverment minister Gordon Nuttall were being heard. It was alleged that Nuttall had corruptly received $360,000 in payments from mining magnate Ken Talbot.

Talbot was a member of the Thoroughbred Club which was a group of Queensland businessmen formed to mentor Bronco players. Admission to the club was by invitation-only and it is said that all nominees had to be firstly approved by Wayne Bennett. Talbot was Bennett's close friend and he was often a visitor in the club's dressing room. When the Broncos played St Helens in the World Club Cup in England in 2006, Talbot was in the grandstand watching.

Evidence in the court case had Talbot secretly giving money to Bronco's players, including Lockyer and Webcke. Talbot, Australian's then 32nd richest man worth $965 million, also had a secret deal to pay Wayne Bennett $100,000 a season over 10 years. Other evidence had Talbot giving Don Nissen a payment of $760,000 when he (Nissen) was the Bronco's chairman. Two former Broncos executives worked for the Talbot Hotel Group, which also employed Webcke when he retired in 2006.

After the hearing, David Gallop stated that the NRL couldn't take action because witnesses refused to speak with Ian Schubert. He kept the investigation open waiting for court corruption charges to be finalised against Ken Talbot in 2010. However, Talbot died in a plane crash two months before the charges were listed to be heard.

The NRL appears to have let the matter rest there.

 

[pennywisealfie]

remember that time when it was found out that the broncos were over the cap and were giving money to Lockyer and Webcke secretly, but the media never found out and the NRL just let it rest, the only people who knew were a couple of super sleuths from a Souths fan site? crazy times.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I thought it was because Russel Crowe purchased a KFC for Big Dave Taylor

 

[Coxy]

remember that time when it was found out that the broncos were over the cap and were giving money to Lockyer and Webcke secretly, but the media never found out and the NRL just let it rest, the only people who knew were a couple of super sleuths from a Souths fan site? crazy times.

BAM! [icon_lol1.

Seriously, the Nuttall case up here had massive media coverage. If there was "evidence given" that Talbot was giving money to Broncos players, the media would've been all over it.

It didn't happen.

However, the third party payment dispute with Taylor wouldn't surprise me.

 

[GCBRONCO]

I thought it was because Russel Crowe purchased a KFC for Big Dave Taylor

One that serves Bacon right?

 

[Je$ter]

remember that time when it was found out that the broncos were over the cap and were giving money to Lockyer and Webcke secretly, but the media never found out and the NRL just let it rest, the only people who knew were a couple of super sleuths from a Souths fan site? crazy times.

It's a bit out there but it wouldn't surprise me if the Thoroughbreds gave some players a bit on the side.

 

[Aeetee]

Not saying its not true but its easy to say shit when the key person is.... dead.

 

[Porthoz]

Souffs fans trying to pretend that their club has any kind of attraction besides the spotlights on Russel Crowe and lots of money. [eusa_doh [icon_evillaugh

 

[Big Pete]

Pretty much Rocky, when he signed he was playing Centrals and wasn't allowed to play his natural game. Yet by the time the season ended he seemed really sad to be leaving.

 

[Russo]

paid them in thoroughbreds [icon_wink

 

[Aeetee]

Isn't it funny, Sammy T went through the same thing Taylor did. Was only a 40min player. Spent a lot of time in Qcup, was slowly bleed into the Broncos. He accepted it and did his 'apprenticeship' and look at him now. Future Capt material and a highly respected member of the team.
Sammy T>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corey Parker>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leon Bott>>>>>>>>>>>Dave T

 

[Flutterby]

SO what I'm reading is player manager negotiated a sponsorship and didn't tell the club. Deal fell through part way along, so player manager told club and asked them to pay it instead. Club realised if they paid the money it would put them over the cap so told manager they were not in a position to pay him anymore. Player left club for more money than Broncos could pay.

 

[Nashy]

Not saying its not true but its easy to say shit when the key person is.... dead.

This. I heard his involvement in the case would have opened this up.

Oh well.

 

[joshobro]

Doesn't matter now he's at a crap club owned by a wanker, full of erratic halfbacks, has been fullbacks, past their prime front rowers, occasionally good 5/8's and now an overweight money hungry centre. Good times at souths I say! By the way how long is it since souths have actually done anything? Like all players that leave the broncos they rarely find the grass is greener and want back!

 

[Charmamba]

Isn't it funny, Sammy T went through the same thing Taylor did. Was only a 40min player. Spent a lot of time in Qcup, was slowly bleed into the Broncos. He accepted it and did his 'apprenticeship' and look at him now. Future Capt material and a highly respected member of the team.
Sammy T>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corey Parker>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shane Perry>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dave T

Fixed

 

[Nashy]

Surely Stu Kelly and Steve Michaels can fit in there.

 

[Kaz]

What next, GI didn't sign for the Broncos because we didn't have enough Black players.

OH wait that's true & because he got heaps more money at Souths.

Taylor went to Souths because of the money & he was told he would play the full 80 mins.

 

[dukey]

To be completely honest, I really don't miss Dave Taylor. I can't see anyone in the backline that I would drop in his favour, and I doubt that having him here in 2010 would have been enough to see us make the finals.