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The Fisherman

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Ephesians 4:31-32
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

Philippians 2:3 ESV

Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves

1 John 4:1 ESV

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world

I have done research on both sides, it is best to have an open mind on these topics and not assume. I’m not defending him I’m simply looking at the way you are conducting yourself
your pushing shit up a hill roo-ted, its not like Dazza can think logical
 

abashii

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I can, frankly he is boring, there is only so much duelling banjos that you can handle.
Same, I'm happy to debate just about anything with just about anyone, but only if there's the possibility of at least one of us learning something. Talking to old mate is slightly less enlightening than banging my head against a brick wall.
 

The Fisherman

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There were instances were in a "dump" of thousands of mail in votes - ALL WERE FOR BIDEN. This is evidence that the Democrats panicked on election night (when counting was stopped with Trump way ahead) - and they were left with no other option than dump their pre-arranged mail in votes.

Because what I said happened and is being presented as evidence by the Trump team (hint - you won't see this on corrupt media).

Please spell "English" with a capital E. Ta.
He's got you there with that last sentence HUGE, you f****d up so don't try and deny it, I have to fess up but, I responded to one of Dazzas' posts and used "through" instead of "threw" , so don't beat yourself up to much over your mistake, I made one as well
 

dazzat99

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Most of Trumps voters couldn't send in postal votes HUGE because rednecks rarely read or write
It is clear that Trump supporters are the American middle-class.

In 2016, it was the "rust belt" states that surprised the Democrats and voted for Republican Trump. Why?

Because Obama (and before him Bush) sold out American jobs to overseas interests by ratifying very one-sided "trade deals" - killing thousands upon thousands of jobs in manufacturing.

There's a famous video of Obama saying "And how is Trump going to bring back jobs"?

Well - Trump did it through tearing up the trade deals, making American energy independent again (constructing pipelines that were stopped by Obama), and taking on China through imposing tariffs. He also cut company taxes significantly, and cut more red tape than any president in history, which attracted big manufacturers back to the US.

Trump is firstly a businessman - and a very good one. He was able to achieve this because he's rich enough not to be beholden to lobbyists - he doesn't care about them. He runs the government like a business.

I realise that this may all be over your head - because the sum total of your political knowledge is "orange man bad".
 

dazzat99

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Are you game? Are you open to have your mind-blown regarding the facts surrounding the COVD19 hoax?

If you're not up for it - and want to live in the mire of media filth, don't watch this.

 

The Fisherman

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From your responses I'd say front rower - too many scrums and played before concussion rules.
Sorry Dazza your wrong again, Owner/Director/General Manager for one of the most successful private companies servicing the building industry (now sold and now retired) , that's why I have the time today to waste some time sparring around with a dickhead like you on this forum.
 

dazzat99

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Sorry Dazza your wrong again, Owner/Director/General Manager for one of the most successful private companies servicing the building industry (now sold and now retired) , that's why I have the time today to waste some time sparring around with a dickhead like you on this forum.
Obviously you're still too busy to look for the truth, and just suck from the MSM teet - the same media that has lies about everything.

I have worked in and around the media for over 30 years. It is no longer "news". "News" doesn't exist anymore. It is now propaganda from top to bottom. I hope you have a slow awakening.
 

The Fisherman

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Obviously you're still too busy to look for the truth, and just suck from the MSM teet - the same media that has lies about everything.

I have worked in and around the media for over 30 years. It is no longer "news". "News" doesn't exist anymore. It is now propaganda from top to bottom. I hope you have a slow awakening.
Dazza, it's been good sparring with you, I have to park if here for today, I have to start cooking meals for the local nursing home from 4.00pm, might catch up tomorrow, lay off the lines and the blue pills for a bit.
 

lynx000

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Obviously you're still too busy to look for the truth, and just suck from the MSM teet - the same media that has lies about everything.

I have worked in and around the media for over 30 years. It is no longer "news". "News" doesn't exist anymore. It is now propaganda from top to bottom. I hope you have a slow awakening.
AKA, he served food and coffee to journos at McDonalds.
 

Horseheadsup

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Obviously you're still too busy to look for the truth, and just suck from the MSM teet - the same media that has lies about everything.

I have worked in and around the media for over 30 years. It is no longer "news". "News" doesn't exist anymore. It is now propaganda from top to bottom. I hope you have a slow awakening.
Apparently the ' Daily Beast' had a psychic go interview Bidens two dogs, apparently she can communicate with them, they told her Trump was a very bad man..amazing journalism..
 

dazzat99

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Dazza, it's been good sparring with you, I have to park if here for today, I have to start cooking meals for the local nursing home from 4.00pm, might catch up tomorrow, lay off the lines and the blue pills for a bit.
This is the video of Obama being his clueless self. Let's remember what Obama did before becoming president - he was a "community organiser" in one of the crime capitals of American - Chicago. He has no idea about business - utterly clueless - and it shows on this video.

Just two years later under Trump, the US had the highest employment rates in history.

 
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dazzat99

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Yes, the fat lady is more than tuning up when one of your loyal acolytes like Barr confirms that neither the Justice Department nor the FBI can find any evidence of widespread fraud that would have changed the result of the election.

So, it has been confirmed in multiple court cases now that there is a lack of evidence, and the Federal authorities firmly under the control of Trump have not been able to find any. See the writing on the wall Dazza, or are they all corrupt as well and in on the conspiracy?
Well trained by the MSM aren't you?

Here boy ... here's a biscuit. Woof!

The very fact that the media calls Biden "president election" is LYING. He is not. The electoral college has not called it yet.

The very fact that the media says there is no evidence ... they are LYING.

Can you at least admit this?

Or you just gunna keep munching on that media crap biscuit and spewing it back up?
 

dazzat99

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I didn't suggest those tensions didn't exist, simply that they are objectively worse and were intentionally made worse. Aspects of those tensions are certainly unique to Trump.

I don't think we need time to assess what kind of president he was to be honest.
Yes ... I understand ... you just want to go along with the media and your mates who haven't a clue.
 

The True King

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I had an eye opening chat with my brother-in-law last week who lives over in the US.

He's mid 40s, lives in San Diego (previously lived in Denver), earns really good money working for a tech company and was educated here in Australia. He's been living there for about 20 years and previously voted for Obama. He and both his sons (my nephews) voted Trump and the main reason was the economy and tax rate.

There was nothing I could say about Trump would have changed his mind that he was the best candidate for him or his family. He mentioned that most the people in his office he had spoken to were also voting Trump. It really dispelled the narrative that Trump fans are all disenfranchised rednecks and although it is only a personal example, I'm sure it's the case in many American households that for one reason or another they believe the madness.
 

dazzat99

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I'm not going to defend Trump but the country was divided long before he ran for office. He may have exacerbated race and socio-economic tensions but it is plain wrong to act as if they didn't exist during the Obama administration or that they were unique to Trump's presidency.

I think he's a despicable human being but so was Pinochet. Give it a few years and once the emotion and hatred towards him settles down we'll have a better picture about what kind of president he was and what legacy he's left. No doubt what his successor does will play a key role in how history views Trump.
Can you tell us exactly why he's "despicable"?

Obama stirred up racial hatred like no other president.

I've read a book which documents - line-by-line - how Obama lied continually about police violence, painting the police as racists.

The media would report something like "such and such a black young was gunned down unarmed by police". Obama would then smear the entire police force across America based on one incident - and usually after a court hearing, the police were exonerated and found that, for example, the person they shot was armed and they did so in self defence.

Obama is a despicable liar and race baiter.

Before he became President, Trump won numerous awards from the black community for his service to them.

This video will show you why so many hate Trump - its a game that's been played very well by the media in pushing conformity.

 

The True King

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Can you tell us exactly why he's "despicable"?

Obama stirred up racial hatred like no other president.

I've read a book which documents - line-by-line - how Obama lied continually about police violence, painting the police as racists.

The media would report something like "such and such a black young was gunned down unarmed by police". Obama would then smear the entire police force across America based on one incident - and usually after a court hearing, the police were exonerated and found that, for example, the person they shot was armed and they did so in self defence.

Obama is a despicable liar and race baiter.

Before he became President, Trump won numerous awards from the black community for his service to them.

This video will show you why so many hate Trump - its a game that's been played very well by the media in pushing conformity.


Sure, I consider any human being that cheats on their pregnant wife with a porn star as despicable.

Don't bother linking me articles that 'de-bunk' it or comparing him to other people. I couldn't care less.
 

Dash

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Well trained by the MSM aren't you?

Here boy ... here's a biscuit. Woof!

The very fact that the media calls Biden "president election" is LYING. He is not. The electoral college has not called it yet.

The very fact that the media says there is no evidence ... they are LYING.

Can you at least admit this?

Or you just gunna keep munching on that media crap biscuit and spewing it back up?
I can't imagine how outraged you were by this, on November 9, 2016, a full month before the electoral college vote.

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www.bbc.com/news/amp/election-us-2016-37920175
 

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