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Morkel

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You’ve all fact checked 😂😂😂😂
I repeat - every prediction by climate changers has proven not only slightly wrong - but utterly bereft of any semblance of reality.
This has been going on for over 15 years and the brainwashed still haven’t worked it out.

In other words it’s a hoax being used by the UN and their hoards to achieve their Agenda 30 and plans.

I'm not talking about climate change, there is a whole thread on that that you may want to revive. I'm talking about Trump.

Just a small list of claims you've made that have been refuted, by fact-checking, often hilariously:

* Regular periodical updates on votes is not evidence for voter fraud (you have still neglected to answer what you think this is by the way).
* There were no regions where more votes were received than people enrolled (for one example, the author had the wrong state, for the other, the numbers were deliberately inflated 10x).
* People being denied access to watch the counting (simply because there were already sufficient numbers) is not evidence of voter fraud.
* Regions allowing mail-ins to have minor details fixed (eg, an incomplete address), if originally received before cutoff, are legally allowed to do-so.
* The CEO of a vote-counting machine company is not on Biden's payroll.
* The majority of mail-in votes being for Biden was not unexpected nor fraudulent, especially as Biden instructed his voters to vote remotely, and Trump still denies Covid is a thing.
* A graphic on social media, or an opinion on YouTube, needs to be based on facts to be a valid source of information.
* The number of rednecks piled in their trucks, shootin' at the sky and declaring their no-homo love for Trump is not an indication that Trump should have received the popular vote.
* Claiming fraud, that it is "pouring out like a fire hose", actually requires evidence for it to be a truthful statement.

Anyone want to add anything I've missed?

So please again tell my which side of this argument is based on truth and reason, and which is based on a delusional fantasy that is being perpetuated by dishonest and misled groups?
 

dazzat99

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I'm not talking about climate change, there is a whole thread on that that you may want to revive. I'm talking about Trump.

Just a small list of claims you've made that have been refuted, by fact-checking, often hilariously:

* Regular periodical updates on votes is not evidence for voter fraud (you have still neglected to answer what you think this is by the way).
* There were no regions where more votes were received than people enrolled (for one example, the author had the wrong state, for the other, the numbers were deliberately inflated 10x).
* People being denied access to watch the counting (simply because there were already sufficient numbers) is not evidence of voter fraud.
* Regions allowing mail-ins to have minor details fixed (eg, an incomplete address), if originally received before cutoff, are legally allowed to do-so.
* The CEO of a vote-counting machine company is not on Biden's payroll.
* The majority of mail-in votes being for Biden was not unexpected nor fraudulent, especially as Biden instructed his voters to vote remotely, and Trump still denies Covid is a thing.
* A graphic on social media, or an opinion on YouTube, needs to be based on facts to be a valid source of information.
* The number of rednecks piled in their trucks, shootin' at the sky and declaring their no-homo love for Trump is not an indication that Trump should have received the popular vote.
* Claiming fraud, that it is "pouring out like a fire hose", actually requires evidence for it to be a truthful statement.

Anyone want to add anything I've missed?

So please again tell my which side of this argument is based on truth and reason, and which is based on a delusional fantasy that is being perpetuated by dishonest and misled groups?
Verballing. Putting my statements in your own words, twisting and skewing everything to show little resemblance to the intended meaning. You’ll get a job in the media with that “talent”.
 

dazzat99

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Sure, I consider any human being that cheats on their pregnant wife with a porn star as despicable.

Don't bother linking me articles that 'de-bunk' it or comparing him to other people. I couldn't care less.
That’s it? That’s your rationale? Nothing to do with one policy? Nothing to do with any of his achievements as president?
Bill Clinton is documented to have visited pedo island dozens of times - but no outrage from you?
You are exhibit A. No idea. Just a parrot.
 

Bongo

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Can we just all agree to ignore Dazzat99?
Surely if we disengage the rants will stop. I am not sure he even likes the Broncos and why he is on the forum
 
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The True King

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That’s it? That’s your rationale? Nothing to do with one policy? Nothing to do with any of his achievements as president?
Bill Clinton is documented to have visited pedo island dozens of times - but no outrage from you?
You are exhibit A. No idea. Just a parrot.
You asked me what makes him despicable, I answered. Nothing in my post said anything about his presidency, my comment was purely about him as a human being. Read the post and the sentence again.

Interesting that you didn't even bother trying to defend Trump but instead compared him to Clinton.
You don't know my opinion of Clinton so if you're going to start assuming my thoughts you can jog on.
 
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Sirlee oldman

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According to the cdc only 6% of covid deaths are purely from covid. Up to 94% are from co-morbility. 6% of 272,000 is roughly 16,000. That's actually lower than normal flu seasons.
When you post shit like this why would you be surprised that people take it personally? You are basically arguing that if you don’t count people with co-morbidity then Covid is no worse than the flu so why is the rest of the community making sacrifices to keep these people safe.
So who are these people that don’t deserve to be counted or saved? It turns out there’s lots of people with a co-morbidity so I will keep this post short and only mention two.
Arthritis is one. Now I have arthritis and it is not going to kill me but it still irritates me that you don’t think I count. Much more important to me though is that cancer is another co-morbidity. My wife has terminal cancer and fights for every day. She has plans for tomorrow, next week, and next month and I (and everyone who loves her) don’t think it’s too much to ask that the community takes reasonable steps to keep the disease levels down. So it does trigger me when I read posts from dickheads who claim to have an understanding of critical thinking but are essentially arguing that the love of my life is not worth you missing out on your daily latte to keep alive. They are real people not just statistics.
 

lynx000

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When you post shit like this why would you be surprised that people take it personally? You are basically arguing that if you don’t count people with co-morbidity then Covid is no worse than the flu so why is the rest of the community making sacrifices to keep these people safe.
So who are these people that don’t deserve to be counted or saved? It turns out there’s lots of people with a co-morbidity so I will keep this post short and only mention two.
Arthritis is one. Now I have arthritis and it is not going to kill me but it still irritates me that you don’t think I count. Much more important to me though is that cancer is another co-morbidity. My wife has terminal cancer and fights for every day. She has plans for tomorrow, next week, and next month and I (and everyone who loves her) don’t think it’s too much to ask that the community takes reasonable steps to keep the disease levels down. So it does trigger me when I read posts from dickheads who claim to have an understanding of critical thinking but are essentially arguing that the love of my life is not worth you missing out on your daily latte to keep alive. They are real people not just statistics.
Now if Dazza has a shred of decency he will disappear for a while now and not post anymore shit about Covid.

So sorry about your wife Sirlee, cancer sucks, lost my dad to it.
 

abashii

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Yeah it's fucked, my mum was going through chemo again after several years of remission, and I had to stay at a distance for half the year. At least because we took decent measures here in qld I've been able to go see her again lately, especially as she's done with the chemo for good now. Living in some seppo-style hellscape where armed lunatics invade government offices demanding the freedom to transmit a deadly virus during a global pandemic would have been much much worse.
 

Morkel

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Verballing. Putting my statements in your own words, twisting and skewing everything to show little resemblance to the intended meaning. You’ll get a job in the media with that “talent”.

What??? They are literally the claims you have made and continue to stand by despite being proven wrong. How can i possibly be twisting your words when most of the time they aren't even your words - just screengrabs of stats that you have seen and shared without fact-checking.

If it really is about twisting words, I dare you to write each of those items, in your own words, tell us what you believe the truth to be.
 

dazzat99

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What??? They are literally the claims you have made and continue to stand by despite being proven wrong. How can i possibly be twisting your words when most of the time they aren't even your words - just screengrabs of stats that you have seen and shared without fact-checking.

If it really is about twisting words, I dare you to write each of those items, in your own words, tell us what you believe the truth to be.
Thank you Morkel for the generous offer to correct your errors. I’ll pass today 😂😂😂
 

broncos4life

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Well he certainly had a strong opinion on mail in voting and the potential for fraud before the election. Given how he has sat on his ass post election in response to the hundreds of allegations and witnesses of actual fraud then I would guess he is well and truly compromised at this point. Atleast in his statement he essentially admitted there has been fraud just not enough to change the outcome of the election. Which is rubbish of course.
Everyone is compromised!

Honestly if you could take a step back and read the bullshit you and Dazzat are spewing you would see how truly pathetic the both of you look.
 

dazzat99

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Can we just all agree to ignore Dazzat99?
Surely if we disengage the rants will stop. I am not sure he even likes the Broncos and why he is on the forum
Yes - how dare someone have a different opinion!!!! Everyone should think the same ...
 

Morkel

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Thank you Morkel for the generous offer to correct your errors. I’ll pass today 😂😂😂

And there we have it. You're not interested in the truth, you know the shit you peddle is utter nonsense.

If you had a shred of "critical thinking", you would take those items that have been categorically proven to be false (more votes than voters, CEO of tech company on Biden payroll etc) back to your little collective and say "hey, we got these wrong, let's stop sharing lies". Maybe then you could start building your reality on, well, reality, instead of perpetuated lies.
 

dazzat99

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Everyone is compromised!

Honestly if you could take a step back and read the bullshit you and Dazzat are spewing you would see how truly pathetic the both of you look.
Did you know witnesses who have signed affidavits are being threatened? Oh ... the media don’t report that.
The evidence is all documented. There are startling videos of hearings - witnesses reporting the dumping of truckloads of Biden votes and the destruction of Trump votes.
Regarding Barr - this.

 

dazzat99

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And there we have it. You're not interested in the truth, you know the shit you peddle is utter nonsense.

If you had a shred of "critical thinking", you would take those items that have been categorically proven to be false (more votes than voters, CEO of tech company on Biden payroll etc) back to your little collective and say "hey, we got these wrong, let's stop sharing lies". Maybe then you could start building your reality on, well, reality, instead of perpetuated lies.
Do you agree with the media that Biden is “president elect”?
 

Dash

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Do you agree with the media that Biden is “president elect”?
"An unofficial term, president-elect has been used by the media for decades. Politicians have applied the term to the declared winner, even soon after election night."

You really are hung up on a meaningless term.
 
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dazzat99

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"An unofficial term, president-elect has been used by the media for decades. Politicians have applied the term to the declared winner, even soon after election night."

You really are hung up on a meaningless term.
BS. President elect is only used after the electoral college and the senate have ratified the results of the election.
The lying corrupt media called Biden president elect the next day!!!!
This is a blatant lie designed to brainwash the zombies into thinking everything has been done.
Next question - do you believe that there is no evidence of voter fraud - as perpetrated by the media?
 

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