Round 13 Teams - Dugan at 6?!

[Big Pete]

FRIDAY
Gold Coast Titans v North Queensland Cowboys at Skilled Park, 7:35pm (local). #NRLGLDNQL


TITANS: William Zillman, Kevin Gordon, Jamal Idris, Beau Champion, David Mead, Aidan Sezer, Scott Prince, Luke Bailey, Matt Srama, Nate Myles, Greg Bird, Mark Minichiello, Ashley Harrison. Interchange (from): Luke Douglas, Matthew White, Ben Ridge, Luke O’Dwyer, Brenton Lawrence

COWBOYS: Matthew Bowen, Ashley Graham, Brent Tate, Kane Linnett, Antonio Winterstein, Johnathan Thurston, Ray Thompson, Matthew Scott, Aaron Payne, James Tamou, Gavin Cooper, Glenn Hall, Dallas Johnson. Interchange (from): James Segeyaro, Ricky Thorby, Ashton Sims, Jason Taumalolo, Cory Paterson


Manly Sea Eagles v St George Illawarra Dragons at Brookvale Oval, 7:35pm (local). #NRLMANSTI


SEA EAGLES: Brett Stewart, Michael Oldfield, Jamie Lyon, Dean Whare, Jorge Taufua, Kieran Foran, Daly Cherry-Evans, Jason King, Matt Ballin, Brent Kite, Anthony Watmough, Daniel Harrison, Glenn Stewart. Interchange (from): Jamie Buhrer, Joe Galuvao, Darcy Lussick, George Rose, Vic Mauro

DRAGONS: Brett Morris, Daniel Vidot, Kyle Stanley, Matt Cooper, Jason Nightingale, Jamie Soward, Ben Hornby (c), Dan Hunt, Mitch Rein, Trent Merrin, Beau Scott, Ben Creagh, Dean Young. Interchange (from): Nathan Fien, Jeremy Latimore, Leeson Ah Mau, Jake Marketo, Jack de Belin, Chase Stanley




SATURDAY

Canberra Raiders v Wests Tigers at Canberra Stadium, 5:30pm (local). #NRLCANWEST


RAIDERS: Reece Robinson, Dimitri Pelo, Jarrod Croker, Blake Ferguson, Edrick Lee, Josh Dugan, Josh McCrone, David Shillington, Travis Waddell, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, Josh Papalii, Joel Thompson, Shaun Fensom. Interchange (from): Shaun Berrigan, Joe Picker, Bronson Harrison, Dane Tilse, Sam Mataora

TIGERS: Tim Moltzen, Matt Utai, Beau Ryan, Chris Lawrence, Lote Tuqiri, Blake Ayshford, Benji Marshall, Aaron Woods, Robbie Farah, Keith Galloway, Adam Blair, Liam Fulton, Chris Heighington. Interchange: Curtis Sironen, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Matt Bell, Tom Humble


Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs v South Sydney Rabbitohs at ANZ Stadium, 7:35pm (local). #NRLCBYSOU


BULLDOGS: Ben Barba, Krisnan Inu, Josh Morris, Jonathan Wright, Tim Lafai, Josh Reynolds, Kris Keating, Aiden Tolman, Michael Ennis, Sam Kasiano, Frank Pritchard, Dene Halatau, Greg Eastwood. Interchange (from): James Graham, David Stagg, Corey Payne, Trent Hodkinson, Joel Romelo, Martin Taupau, Dale Finucane

RABBITOHS: Greg Inglis, Nathan Merritt, Matt King, Dylan Farrell, Andrew Everingham, John Sutton, Adam Reynolds, Luke Burgess, Issac Luke, Dave Tyrrell, Sam Burgess, Dave Taylor, Michael Crocker. Interchange (from): Jason Clark, Ben Lowe, Eddy Pettybourne, Scott Geddes, Chris McQueen, Justin Hunt










SUNDAY

Brisbane Broncos v Newcastle Knights at Suncorp Stadium, 3:00pm (local). #NRLBRINEW


BRONCOS: Josh Hoffman, Gerard Beale, Jack Reed, Justin Hodges, Dale Copley, Corey Norman, Peter Wallace, Ben Hannant, Andrew McCullough, Petero Civoniceva, Alex Glenn, Sam Thaiday, Corey Parker. Interchange: Ben Hunt, Josh McGuire, Matt Gillett, Dunamis Lui

KNIGHTS: Darius Boyd, James McManus, Tafeaga Junior Sa'u, Timana Tahu, Akuila Uate, Jarrod Mullen, Tyrone Roberts, Kade Snowden, Danny Buderus, Willie Mason, Chris Houston, Joel Edwards, Neville Costigan. Interchange: Chris Adams, Lisiate Richie Fa'aoso, Adam Cuthbertson, Alex McKinnon


Warriors v Melbourne Storm at Mt Smart Stadium, 4:00pm (local). #NRLWARMEL


WARRIORS: Glen Fisiiahi, Bill Tupou, Ben Henry, Konrad Hurrell, Manu Vatuvei, James Maloney, Shaun Johnson, Russell Packer, Alehana Mara, Ben Matulino, Elijah Taylor, Simon Mannering, Feleti Mateo. Interchange: Lewis Brown, Sam Rapira, Sione Lousi, Jacob Lillyman

STORM: Billy Slater, Matt Duffie, Dane Nielsen, Will Chambers, Justin O'Neill, Gareth Widdop, Cooper Cronk, Jesse Bromwich, Cameron Smith, Jason Ryles, Ryan Hinchcliffe, Ryan Hoffman, Todd Lowrie. Interchange (from): Anthony Quinn, Rory Kostjasyn, Michael Greenfield, Jaiman Lowe




MONDAY


Parramatta Eels v Cronulla Sharks at Parramatta Stadium, 7:00pm (local). #NRLPARCRO


EELS: Jarryd Hayne, Luke Burt, Ryan Morgan, Cheyse Blair, Ken Sio, Ben Roberts, Chris Sandow, Tim Mannah, Matthew Keating, Justin Poore, Nathan Hindmarsh (c), Matt Ryan, Joseph Paulo. Interchange:Reni Maitua, Fuifui Moimoi, Mitchell Allgood, Taulima Tautai

SHARKS: Matthew Wright, Isaac Gordon, Ben Pomeroy, Colin Best, Nathan Stapleton, Todd Carney, Jeff Robson, Bryce Gibbs, Isaac De Gois, Ben Ross, Jeremy Smith, Jayson Bukuya, Paul Gallen. Interchange (from): Andrew Fifita, Wade Graham, John Morris, Mark Taufua, Sam Tagataese

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[Fozz]

Either Reese Robinson is doing better than I thought or Furner has been painting his house this week.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I didn't watch the Raiders game but did Sam Williams really play that bad to be dropped?? Dugan isn't a 6. He can barely handle the physicality at fullback let alone the extra defence at 6.

 

[Son Edo]

Did Blake Ashford do anything at 5/8?

 

[Big Pete]

I didn't watch the Raiders game but did Sam Williams really play that bad to be dropped?? Dugan isn't a 6. He can barely handle the physicality at fullback let alone the extra defence at 6.

Not really.

With a few exceptions the Raiders were awful. Williams was exposed a few times in defence but you'll find it was because of Croker more than anything else. In fact, Williams was the only half to set anything up for the Raiders. McCrone was dead-set useless.

It appears they wanted a bigger half to patch up the defence when really they should just drop Croker.

 

[dukey]

Dugan/Williams in the halves wouldn't be a bad pairing. I'm yet to see anything special from McCrone, they probably should've dropped him instead of Cooma.
Doogs will do alright there, he's got the skill set to be a 6, whether or not he has the vision I guess we'll see.

 

[Big Pete]

It just amazes me how a roster as talented as the Raiders has performed so poorly over the past 4 years.

They arguably have the best junior base in Rugby League yet they haven't converted it into first grade yet.

Yeah, they're missing Campese but they had a whole year to get used to it & have some fantastic halves coming through in Williams, Wighton & Cornish (Milford is another up and comer, ripped up in SG Ball & best of all is a Qlder, keep an eye out) yet they persist with players like McCrone or go with stop-gap solutions like Dugan.

It's frustrating to see because Canberra at their best would add so much to this competition and the rivalry they could have with the Broncos would be amazing. Yet, year after year, it's the same old thing. Couple of promising wins where you think, gee they're going to be a good team next year! Only to see them fail, yet again.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Raiders don't have a decent hooker. Got a huge pack but nobody to get them going

 

[Big Pete]

That's definitely apart of the reason, but one position surely doesn't cripple a roster as talented as Canberra's.

Besides, Buttriss wasn't that horrible.

 

[Ari Gold]

Campese can't get on the field for more than 2 months in the year and Dugan has probably played 60-65% of games. Even though their pack is good, if they don't have those two players fit, they really don't have anyone in the team who can capitalize on their good go forward. Butriss/Waddell are cod ordinary by NRL hooker standards and McCrone, whilst a good, running half, is merely a foil for a superior partner like Campese. He isn't really a go to man.

 

[Big Pete]

All fair points but injuries don't excuse 2009 where they largely had a clean bill of health.

I can excuse 2011 due to injuries but how didn't the Raiders adapt to them in 2012? They clearly have some talented halves prospects who can cover for Campese (who's always been a tad overated but that's for another thread) yet they haven't been given the commitment to succeed.

 

[Old Mate]

Not really.

With a few exceptions the Raiders were awful. Williams was exposed a few times in defence but you'll find it was because of Croker more than anything else. In fact, Williams was the only half to set anything up for the Raiders. McCrone was dead-set useless.

It appears they wanted a bigger half to patch up the defence when really they should just drop Croker.

Say wha? Croker was decentish, Williams was absolutely horrible.

 

[Old Mate]

Dugan/Williams in the halves wouldn't be a bad pairing. I'm yet to see anything special from McCrone, they probably should've dropped him instead of Cooma.
Doogs will do alright there, he's got the skill set to be a 6, whether or not he has the vision I guess we'll see.

Dugan can't throw a pass to save his life.

 

[Broncoman]

I've never seen Dugan play anywhere other than fullback. He is a great attacking player and a fearless defender but I don't think he will be able to direct the Raiders backline effectively and there coming up against Benji that will make it even tougher.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Seems to be the thing to do when ur not winning. Play ur best attacking player in 6. Inglis, lawrence, hayne and now dugan.

 

[Ari Gold]

They saw us do it with Lockyer and think it can work even though they don't factor in how special he was.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

They saw us do it with Lockyer and think it can work even though they don't factor in how special he was.

Lockyer always had the play making ability even at fullback, not sure dugan has the same skills. In fact im pretty sure he doesnt haha

 

[Old Mate]

He absolutely doesn't. Anthony Minichellol mk II.