Sandow's sin binning

[Foordy]

Just wondering everyone's thoughts on this...

For those who aren't aware yet it was in the Eels vs Storm game yesterday.

Storm were awarded a penalty and Sandown says to the ref (Cummins) "how much are they paying you?".

Cummins then sin bins Sandow, while Sandow wad in the sin bin, the Storm score 3 trys to take the game away from the Eels. Before the sin binning of Sandow, the Eels were only down 24-16.

After the match, Arthur had a go at Cummins for taking the opportunity to win away from the Eels and referred to the Sandow comment to Cummins as "trivial" and us laying little to no blame on Sandow.

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IMO, Cummins had no choice in the matter. No ref in any sport in the world would tolerate a statement like that from a player, it doesn't matter how poor the refs performance is.

If Arthur wants to blame anyone for the sin binning, he needs to lay the blame where it belongs ... on Sandow.

I also think there is a good chance Sandow will receive a charge from the MRC.

 

[Charmamba]

Watch Sandow get a stupid ban like 4weeks or something, because everything is worse than flipping a guy on his head.

While Sandow shouldn't have said it, i'd love to buy him a beer for saying it. The refs and the nrl are nothing short of a joke right now.

 

[broncos4life]

Watch Sandow get a stupid ban like 4weeks or something, because everything is worse than flipping a guy on his head.

While Sandow shouldn't have said it, i'd love to buy him a beer for saying it. The refs and the nrl are nothing short of a joke right now.

Exactly my thoughts.

Obviously descent to a ref can't be tolerated, but the nrl need to look at the message they are sending. In a year that has seen a lifting tackle completely alter a young persons life, so far we have shown that punching and naughty words are of far greater concern

 

[Nashy]

Deserved to be binned. Deserves a suspension.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

Tallis got sent in Origin for calling Harrigan a cheat. I don't think Sandow has got anything to complain about.

 

[Porthoz]

Regardless of how I feel about the current refereeing in the NRL, I would've sent him straight off. There is no way this type of dissent can be anywhere near acceptable!

Just because they are soft in the way they handle some of the other stuff on the field, doesn't make this decision wrong. I hope they throw the book at him.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

And didn't Hodgo get a couple of weeks for his "**** you" hand gesture to the ref?

 

[ivanhungryjak]

Found it. From 2008.
Also talks of some inconsistencies relevant to today's game.

BRISBANE chief executive Bruno Cullen launched a staggering attack on the NRL judiciary last night, claiming it had condoned assaulting and abusing referees by players.

Cullen, speaking only moments after centre Justin Hodges had been found guilty of a contrary conduct charge, made no attempt to hide his disgust with the verdict, which will strip his side of the Test star for two matches.


Hodges was suspended after he was found guilty of making a rude gesture to referee Tony Archer during the Broncos' win over Canberra last weekend.


Cullen claimed the decision was ridiculous given Cronulla captain Paul Gallen and Melbourne forward Michael Crocker had both avoided charges in recent weeks following incidents involving referees.


Gallen pulled the shirt of referee Shayne Hayne during his side's match with Brisbane two weeks ago while, on the same weekend, Cullen alleged Crocker ran at Jared Maxwell to abuse him.


"I think tonight the judiciary and the system has said to players out there that it's OK to assault the referee by grabbing his jumper as Paul Gallen did, it's OK to abuse a referee like Michael Crocker did - but you can't make a non-verbal, non-abusive, non-aggressive gesture," Cullen said.


"Let's just tell the kids out there that it's OK to grab a referee and pull him. Let's tell the kids it's OK to run aggressively at a referee and swear at him and attack him verbally.


"But don't you keep your mouth shut and make a childish action in frustration. Kids, don't do that because you'll get in trouble.


"What's happened tonight is ridiculous."


Hodges claimed his gesture of bending his right arm and striking it with his left had not been aimed at Archer. Instead, he argued he regularly used the same gesture whenever he attended a racetrack and was attempting to kick a horse past the winning post.


"The gesture to me means nothing," Hodges said. "If someone did it to me I wouldn't think anything of it. I've used it a few times at the racetrack when I've been trying to get home a horse and the chips have been down."


The NRL panel of Mal Cochrane, Darrell Williams and Bob Lindner took less than 30 minutes to disagree and suspend Hodges.

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[FaceOfMutiny]

I want to see more sin bin's. If a player committed a clear offence(ie spear tackle) march them for 10 to have a think about how they have disadvantaged their own team. It's BS that McGuire can get spear tackled and its just a penalty after what happened to Alex McKinnon yet Sandow gets binned for talking back to the refs? It doesn't make sense. Putting someone on report doesn't help during that match and just makes the next time they play get an easier game if they get suspended.

If they start binning guys for spear tackles we may actually see a reduction in them.

 

[Cult]

Yet Gallen gets away with saying "fucking ridiculous" after a penalty goes against the Sharks. The refs are so inconsistent it's not even funny. 2 different opinions on the field is not working.

 

[OXY-351]

Well it does seem a little suss that Cummins just got a new boat on Saturday

 

[I bleed Maroon]

Sandow deserved it but I can't help and feel proud of him as well. The standard of officiating in the NRL has never been worse and nobody seems to care.

 

[Waynesaurus]

2 different opinions on the field is not working.

Bingo!!!!!!.....and two different 10 meters.

 

[Foordy]

Yet Gallen gets away with saying "fucking ridiculous" after a penalty goes against the Sharks. The refs are so inconsistent it's not even funny. 2 different opinions on the field is not working.

There is a big difference to saying you think the call is wrong (even if you use the language that Gallen did) to saying the refs are corrupt (by taking money from the opposition)

I agree that the standard of officiating in the NRL is pathetic, but saying that to a ref is only asking for one outcome.

So you have no one but yourself to blame if you get sin binned for it and while you are off the field you have 3 trys scored against you.

 

[Cult]

There is a big difference to saying you think the call is wrong (even if you use the language that Gallen did) to saying the refs are corrupt (by taking money from the opposition)

I agree that the standard of officiating in the NRL is pathetic, but saying that to a ref is only asking for one outcome.

So you have no one but yourself to blame if you get sin binned for it and while you are off the field you have 3 trys scored against you.

Both should have been sent. Thaiday got suspended for pulling the refs shirt in a non threatening way. Gallen gets away with talking to the refs disrespectfully and then everyone else should too.

 

[Big Pete]

If captains were sent for saying "fucking ridiculous" JT's career would have been cut in half.

Sandow over-stepped the mark. It's not like anybody asked him similar questions when he's arguably been producing worse performances than the referee for the past couple of seasons.

 

[Alec]

You can't say it, but tell me you aren't glad he did. Cummins especially is arguably the worst ref in the comp.

 

[Kaz]

All Sandow has to say is.

I meant the NRL. He can say the ref assumed I meant The Storm.