September 11

Jedhead

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Why.would.he.tell.a.journalist.in.a.filmed.interview.that.he.decided.to.commit.treason..questionmark
I see what you men about your keyboard being stuffed. Must be a pain having the full stop come on after every word you type.

But returning to your question, that my dear Tom, is a question that you need to answer, as it is a lame strawman argument. No one mentioned treason here. It does though take you conveniently away from the facts doesn't it. There is no doubt he said they decided to pull it. Added to this the BBC reported a good ten minutes before it went down that it had already collapsed. The footage show this building in the background as she speaks for goodness sakes.
 

Renegade

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I used to believe in some of the conspiracy stuff and then I learnt about confirmation bias and so I had to rethink my approach on it.

I have reached a point of comfort with my scepticism. Was there a coordinated, inside job conspiracy amongst high ranking US officials or the shadowy cabal of the new world order (new new new new world order....) ? I highly doubt it, the lengths of which a few people would have to go in order to not raise suspicion and have the plan come to fruition... I just don't see it as feasible. We're not talking about a few guys at the back of an alley planning this... it would have to coordinated with hundreds of people... no, I just don't consider it something feasible.

I can get on board with the idea that, they knew an attack was imminent and let it happen in order to fulfil certain future plans. This kinda happened at Pearl Harbour so it would not be unrealistic to believe it could happen again, not to mention things weren't exactly rosey prior to 9/11 (amongst others, there was the bombing of the USS cole in the late 80's and subsequent events that kept ratcheting up the pressure between the US and Al Qaeda.

I know of the WTC 7 stuff but the conspiracy stuff doesn't really stack up. There were trillions of dollars of receipts or records or something that were lost in the fire and it related to some financial shit. Who cares? You know the US drops hundreds of billions of dollars each year into a black budget where the money just disappears and can't be accounted for - it's assumed it's going on top secret prototypes or whatever, but the reality remains the same - money disappears with no trail. Does it matter?
 

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edit: should be late 90's instead of 80's for USS Cole but it ended up being 2000 anyway. :)
 

Dash

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There is no doubt he said they decided to pull it. Added to this the BBC reported a good ten minutes before it went down that it had already collapsed. The footage show this building in the background as she speaks for goodness sakes.
Pull the rescue party, sure. But pull the building? That doesn't even make sense.

Perhaps the news were told "it's coming down" (hence the rescue party being pulled) and misunderstood that as "it's already come down".
 

Jedhead

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Pull the rescue party, sure. But pull the building? That doesn't even make sense.

Perhaps the news were told "it's coming down" (hence the rescue party being pulled) and misunderstood that as "it's already come down".
When you realise that "pull it" is the jargon demolition men use to describe blowing up a building it makes perfect sense. But hey, it's not everyday speak so you're not expected to know, but if you kept up with the thread you'd realise what you just posted looks not only ill-informed, it looks dumb. Try to keep up champ.
 

Dash

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When you realise that "pull it" is the jargon demolition men use to describe blowing up a building it makes perfect sense. But hey, it's not everyday speak so you're not expected to know, but if you kept up with the thread you'd realise what you just posted looks not only ill-informed, it looks dumb. Try to keep up champ.
Yeah alright mate. A quick Google search will show you that 'pull it' is NOT a demolition term, except maybe in the context of pulling a small building down with cables. Try to keep up, you're making yourself look dumb.
 
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Jedhead

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Yeah alright mate. A quick Google search will show you that 'pull it' is NOT a demolition term, except maybe in the context of pulling a small building down with cables. Try to keep up, you're making yourself look dumb.
Yeh a quick search confirms exactly what I said. You trying to repeat what I said on the other hand confirms you're dumber than I thought.
 

Nashy

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Yeh a quick search confirms exactly what I said. You trying to repeat what I said on the other hand confirms you're dumber than I thought.
Those two words are not exclusive to demolition, never have been, never will be. My quick Google of the term found me heaps of porn links, maybe that's what he meant. Maybe the resuce team needed that relief after a damned stressful day.

Anyway, everyone needs to stop being so insulting. If your argument needs to include insults, you really have to ask yourself how good your argument and "facts" are.
 

Morkel

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I can easily see how "pull it" could mean to get the people out of the building. Pull the people out of it.
 

Tom

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I see what you men about your keyboard being stuffed. Must be a pain having the full stop come on after every word you type.

But returning to your question, that my dear Tom, is a question that you need to answer, as it is a lame strawman argument. No one mentioned treason here. It does though take you conveniently away from the facts doesn't it. There is no doubt he said they decided to pull it. Added to this the BBC reported a good ten minutes before it went down that it had already collapsed. The footage show this building in the background as she speaks for goodness sakes.

I think I see what's going on here. All your questions are "gotcha" moments that I have to answer(which I did, more on that soon) and all my questions are "lame strawmen" that I need to answer and are not worthy of being asked to you. I have seen this before.

I'm not judging you. I got into this stuff because I had 2 friends irl who would believe every damn conspiracy they read up on no matter how stupid it was. I knew they weren't stupid, but I did think their ideas were dumb. They would also try anything to get out of answering any questions I had of them. It would actually fascinate me how far they would go to reject evidence and common sense contrary to their beliefs and I can see you doing the same thing now. Your ideas are set in stone and no amount of evidence is going to change your mind. I think this discussion with you has gone as far as it can go.

Ftr I did answer your question with a possible explanation-

Firefighters at ground zero had been reporting all day that #7 was coming down, it was inevitable, it had been burning out of control. It had, afterall just had 2 of the world's tallest buildings collapse on top of it. It's not hard to imagine that on such a full-on day with so many unconfirmed reports flying around that some Chinese whispers between the firefighters and the media occurred.
You must have either ignored it or dismissed it as utter nonsense that was impossible. In the future you will be doing yourself a big favour if you can try to be more open-minded.
 
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I remember watching the live feed the BBC were putting out and the chic says that building seven had just fallen yet in the background it was right there fully intact. A few seconds later it cuts to the guy in the studio and he mumbles something about losing the link to the US. I did not know any of the buildings numbers at the time but I will never forget the guys face in the studio, it screamed a massive ' oops we f***ed up big time there". So the few seconds of her and him struck me as very odd.

It was not until the next day that I learned that building seven had so many conspiricy theories attached to it. And then the odd feeling I had became clear. Has always stayed with me that little scene.
This post seems a little odd after reading. Not picking on you but you said you didn't know the building numbers at the time yet when the bbc report was aired you could see building 7 still there intact. Are you saying the BBC knew it was going to fall and were acting in collaboration with the US to fake report ?
 

ningnangnong

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Another year down, guys. Still seems so surreal when I think about it.

Flying planes into massive buildings in one of the biggest cities in the world? Mental.
 

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Another year down, guys. Still seems so surreal when I think about it.

Flying planes into massive buildings in one of the biggest cities in the world? Mental.
Very hard to believe...especially when you work on them on a daily basis.

The plane that hit the pentagon had 16000 litres of jet fuel onboard.

Imagine that going up in flames.
 

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Was speaking to my Mum about this yesterday, it's one of those things hey, you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when you heard.

I remember vividly, I was in the car with my Mum and we heard about it on the radio, we were stunned, she dropped me off at my Nanas house, as per the usual morning ritual, and I remember watching a live feed from the Pentagon on SBS with my Nana before walking to school. I remember our teacher talking about it, I remember talking to people at school about it.

I had just turned 10 years old and I still remember all of this like it was yesterday, funny how the mind works, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.
 

Huge

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I remember watching the live feed the BBC were putting out and the chic says that building seven had just fallen yet in the background it was right there fully intact. A few seconds later it cuts to the guy in the studio and he mumbles something about losing the link to the US. I did not know any of the buildings numbers at the time but I will never forget the guys face in the studio, it screamed a massive ' oops we f***ed up big time there". So the few seconds of her and him struck me as very odd.

It was not until the next day that I learned that building seven had so many conspiricy theories attached to it. And then the odd feeling I had became clear. Has always stayed with me that little scene.
Durrrrrr, live feed ha ha. ' live feeds' are quite often anywhere from seconds to minutes delayed in reality. Building was hit and reported via audio while the 'live feed' lags behind, some great mystery huh?
 

Renegade

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Durrrrrr, live feed ha ha. ' live feeds' are quite often anywhere from seconds to minutes delayed in reality. Building was hit and reported via audio while the 'live feed' lags behind, some great mystery huh?
Did you suffer a concussion at work today?
 

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