POST GAME [Round 19, 2022] Broncos vs Eels

[heartly87]

This may seem petty but something that annoys me is that no matter how good he plays and becomes he will likely play less origins than he should purely due to timing.
Deardens performance in origin means he will get 1st shot for next 5 years despite his form and ongoing performances, unless absolutely atrocious. A blind dog could tell you mam has literally twice the talent and ability of him than dearden but if slater took over origin next year instead of this year mam would be a qld player for the next 15 years without question.
This annoys me because it limits his ability to grow from rep footy even further, and play those big games.
He will get a shot at some stage, but no doubt it will be pressure loaded and he'd need to be MoM to even be considered for another game with no chance to grow. Just like it happens to every broncos player...

I think Mam will move to 7 after Reynolds moves on. He has some JT vibes and can easily move to both. Ps it's the running style that gives me the JT vibes.

 

[Dazza 92]

I "think" Parras premiership window is about to slam shut. They are a roster thats due to get weaker next season, not stronger...

This three headed monster (i call it Flegpattyhaassaurous..) of middle forwards we have. I remember a few years ago we were lauded (mostly from ourselves to be fair) the Broncos have discovered the most dominant pack of forwards thats ever come into the game together.

So overwhelming was the noise on this we decided we must sign every one of them to long term contract...

We know now how far that put the club back.

Whether it was by design or blind luck, i have zero doubt we kept the best of them here.

Fuckin love these 3 guys honestly...

 

[Big Del]

Also how about the voluntary tackle ?
JP tested out the rules by not putting his hands on the Parra player on the ground ?
Gave him a shoulder bump trying to push him into touch . Very clever thinking .

 

[Skathen]

Also how about the voluntary tackle ?
JP tested out the rules by not putting his hands on the Parra player on the ground ?
Gave him a shoulder bump trying to push him into touch . Very clever thinking .

To be fair on the ref to this one, when's the last time a voluntary tackle penalty was actually blown? It definitely should be. I was actually hoping someone like Staggs was going to come in at max speed and belt him, penalty be damned. Going to lie on the ground and wait to get touched, time for a bulldozer.

 

[Big Del]

To be fair on the ref to this one, when's the last time a voluntary tackle penalty was actually blown? It definitely should be. I was actually hoping someone like Staggs was going to come in at max speed and belt him, penalty be damned. Going to lie on the ground and wait to get touched, time for a bulldozer.

Nah , I am not a fan of diving onto blokes on the ground .
Bit of a dog shot in my mind .

See if we want kids to play league then that is not OK .
But NRL players are men you say ? Parents don`t differentiate between junior rules which can be quite different to open age football rules .
They see guys on the ground defenceless getting torpedoed by massive bodies . No Johnny you won`t be playing league . You can join the basketball team .

 

[Browny]

If your lying there to avoid being taken into touch or the ingoal or whatever your fair game.

**** ‘em, get up and run or get buried

 

[BooKhaki]

Nah , I am not a fan of diving onto blokes on the ground .
Bit of a dog shot in my mind .

See if we want kids to play league then that is not OK .
But NRL players are men you say ? Parents don`t differentiate between junior rules which can be quite different to open age football rules .
They see guys on the ground defenceless getting torpedoed by massive bodies . No Johnny you won`t be playing league . You can join the basketball team .

Then the NRL should change the rules saying if you lay down, players can pick you up and take you into touch. If you're laying on the ground without a hand on you, you deserve to get belted.

 

[Big Del]

If your lying there to avoid being taken into touch or the ingoal or whatever your fair game.

**** ‘em, get up and run or get buried

Nah I say leave them .
And penalise them like you should if they don`t get up . That will lead to faking injuries though . I think a hand on is good enough . Other wise brave players can be dog shotted for diving on a ball . Oh he`s defenceless on the ground lets hurt him . Weak as piss .

 

[Wolfie]

Am I the only one that cannot understand how there is so much outrage over the obstruction no try? He literally ran into Reynolds and knocked him over. How is that and when has that not been an obstruction? It was so blatant I can't believe the ref missed it.

I get why people complain about it. Arey wouldnt have done anything to stop that try. The rule is stupid, but its the rule, and its obstruction, so no point complaining it was given, complain to the NRL to change it.

 

[BooKhaki]

Nah I say leave them .
And penalise them like you should if they don`t get up . That will lead to faking injuries though . I think a hand on is good enough . Other wise brave players can be dog shotted for diving on a ball . Oh he`s defenceless on the ground lets hurt him . Weak as piss .

He isn't defenceless. He can stand up and run. Laying down expecting not to get hurt is weak as piss.

 

[Big Del]

He isn't defenceless. He can stand up and run. Laying down expecting not to get hurt is weak as piss.

What if you are hurt ?
OK to dive on ?

NRL players don`t have the qualifications to tell the difference ?

 

[Skathen]

Nah I say leave them .
And penalise them like you should if they don`t get up . That will lead to faking injuries though . I think a hand on is good enough . Other wise brave players can be dog shotted for diving on a ball . Oh he`s defenceless on the ground lets hurt him . Weak as piss .

There's a difference between diving on a ball and rolling onto your back and refusing to get up.

He was gaining an advantage by not continuing the play as he would have been bailed into touch.

Options are pretty thin how to treat that, blow the penalty or let them have a solid "crack" at getting them over the line.

 

[BooKhaki]

What if you are hurt ?
OK to dive on ?

NRL players don`t have the qualifications to tell the difference ?

Is this a serious question? You think because I say a voluntary tackle has the right to get hit, you think I expect players to smash a bloke who's gone down injured? You understand players are currently allowed to hit blokes on the ground, right? I'm not the one asking for a rule change, you are.

 

[Big Del]

Is this a serious question? You think because I say a voluntary tackle has the right to get hit, you think I expect players to smash a bloke who's gone down injured? You understand players are currently allowed to hit blokes on the ground, right? I'm not the one asking for a rule change, you are.

Read my previous 3-4 posts for context .

 

[GCBRONCO]

 

[tommy]

Not sure what the rule is for 1st grade but in the juniors it’s called sandbagging.

https://www.playrugbyleague.com/media/1918/national-safeplay-code.pdf

a few years back Sam burgess got done for one against ofahengaue iirc. It was a real ugly look with him dropping a shoulder into his back.

 

[Volvo Driver]

I'm actually surprised they awarded this one.

Any other time, that would have been ruled a knock on by Kotoni. He's making a tackle, but even when making a tackle generally if you touch it and it goes forward, it's called a knock on. I've never heard of a ruling that says it's not a knock on if you score a try from it.

You've never seen loose carry decisions before? Player gets tackled, hands may be around the ball but no deliberate raking/hands on the ball = loose carry called.

Happens plenty of times each week.

 

[ivanhungryjak]