Bucking Beads
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As we've seen in the past. They can't cope with any adversity at all. If it is easy they're loving it but when they have to work for it they fall to pieces.
THE BOSS Maguire Stomped The Naysayers! But...8 Months Later, Here We Are.
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As we've seen in the past. They can't cope with any adversity at all. If it is easy they're loving it but when they have to work for it they fall to pieces.
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I know Patty, Walsh and Madge were reported as being there...
Not sure if they were the only ones or they're only reporting on the big names in the squad, but it was Mother's Day and the game at Toowoomba... so not exactly the easiest game to attend.
- Mar 14, 2008
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yep. if we can't handle a few home truths, sack anyone that's got a problem.
hell, splitting them up might individually do them a world of good.
Bucking Beads
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I can't believe we have done nothing to address the state of our back row and forward pack in general. It is negligence
Fernando
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Well there's only 2 Bulldogs left in the squad from when Ciraldo took over, something similar would happen here with Bellamy. Maybe it will with Maguire?
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I agree with everything here, well said but on the frantic attack bit, I actually think it’s gone past frantic and become panicked attack. They seem frightened of making mistakes which weirdly makes them make more.
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Who would survive?
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I think it is panic as well, although I see it as thinking we need to score whenever there is an opportunity because we don't know or trust that we will be in that position again.
Well that's what I sense from Reynolds anyway... if he thought we were winning the yardage battle he wouldn't be panicked into going for 40/20's or running on the last 50m out.
Staggs and co seem to just think "score on every play", probably because he touches the ball so rarely that he thinks he needs to make an impact whenever he does touch it.
There's no willingness to just take their medicine and reset for the next play.
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Said it better than I would. There's panic because there's no ****ing structure, we are just making shit up (badly) on the fly. We're not even necessarily a good ad-lib team, because that would require support runners.
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Tino was at the Storm, probably more the reason
theshed
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Edit: sorry this rant ended up being a really long one
Everyone who has played sport, especially social sport where there isn’t a coach to crack the whip, has experienced teammates who have a higher level ability than most the team or comp and then do really annoying shit like crab sideward and run backwards until they are cornered, they’ll chuck a rushed pass to someone not expecting it. They hold the ball for an impressive amount of time without being stopped thanks to their footwork and evasiveness, but 80% of the defensive line just stands and watches them step 20 times in all directions but forwards.
For me, I noticed it most in touch footy with the guys who were high school league stars. Their mentality was always “avoid being touched at all costs” rather than thinking “what is best for the team right now”. So they would do exactly what I described above. After them scoring 2 or 3 tries per game each but losing 4 games in a row, finally enough argument gets through to them that their footwork and speed would actually be really great at building momentum and getting quick play the balls by running straight, getting a quick touch, and now we are set up to attack a retreating defensive line.
Typically you’d then dominate the opposition, maybe even win a game or 2 but either they get bored with it, forget, or as soon as there is a tough opponent - they go straight back to the mentality of ‘I need to win this on my own’, which actually ****s the whole teams chances of winning.
The issue is, objectively if you watch those type of players, they are making line breaks, scoring tries, making some defenders look silly (without actually making any metres). So to them and outsiders, it looks like they just played another incredibly dominant game. How do you tell that guy that he’s the one who needs to change?
It’s why I was so against players like Isaako (at fullback) and TPJ. Yeah, at a surface level they look dominant but what looks like success for them is actually failing the team.
It’s hard to know which players are the biggest offenders without knowing the exact game plan. But for years Haas would grind out every possible metre without it seeming like he had any care for where on the field his run landed the PTB, or even the speed at which he played the ball. I think Haas has gotten a lot better and is far from our biggest problem but I think it really highlights how good someone can be playing individually while still undermining the team’s chances of winning. Patty is a bit of an offender for this too.
Shiba and Arthars are our only outside backs who seem to care about this at all. On field position kicks, the kicker is usually aiming to pin a team deep in their corner. Because a yardage set is harder if you can only pass it one direction. Last game there where so many sets where Cobbo, Mariner and Staggs kept running on the edges with no regard for getting the PTB back in the middle third - the only guy who does it regularly is Shibasaki. Watch him closely next game and see how many of his ones have a strategic mindset compared to the other guys.
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Nah .
Sualiii did not deliberately KO Reece . Reece keeps his feet under him he gets tackled hard but fair .
Same as when he busted his cheek against the Panthers keeps his feet under him and not slip over - play on .
I have commented about this several times if Reece steps on the outside of his boot not placing the sprigs of his boot on the ground and he slips over that is his problem not the person making the tackle . That is a flaw in Reece`s running / changing direction and losing his footing and slipping over . He can expect to get hit high until he remedies it .
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Thats what I'm saying... it's not just us that he's done this, but people here are willing to let a bloke who's been here for three seconds blow the joint up. That happened with pies and I'll be ****ed if we should do it again.
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Mate to be fair Kev wasn't pulling up stumps either and although I haven't checked, I'm sure you would've been keen on his removal given your penchant for stabbings. No point trying the same thing over and over.
broncsgoat
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Penchant for stabbings? I wish we never got rid of Wayne. I deathrode pies into the ground which was ****ing funny but other than that I wouldnt say I call for blood often.
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We're overanalysing it all. When we pumped the Bulldogs the boys were cuddling like the were in The Notebook.
Walshy posted a video of him fingering Billy's mouth last night. Like hello, they are in love.
They looked more unhappier at the end of last year
Walshy posted a video of him fingering Billy's mouth last night. Like hello, they are in love.
They looked more unhappier at the end of last year
