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It's like talking to a bunch of spoilt children. No concept of the fact we were the worst team in the comp at the end of 2020 and then played a gf 2 seasons later having the most successful season we'd had since 2006.Please don't compare the man who ruined our team, to the legend who built it back up again.
The team looked incredibly fit in 2023 and then got better as the season went along. Something changed in 2024 but that was likely the short preseason plus Vegas heading in and then injury after injury.
I don't believe this side was coming from further back than other sides, this just sounds like someone trying to deflect blame away from Maguire. I mean let's look at the three possible outcomes of this idea:
1. This is true and the players are stuffed to get them in to shape. The fact they are competing up to end despite being flogged implies that they weren't that far behind to begin with
2. Maguire is deliberately throwing games because he wants to break them for some reason
3. He is whipping them to taper off after origin when they won't just be stuffed, they will be broken
Just sounds ridiculous to handicap yourself. Fitness does not appear to be this side's problem and in fact by all reports, they love themselves and so don't mind keeping fit. Their issues are their errors and inability to fight for each other. A focus on whipping them to they break is looking in the wrong direction.
Give it a rest. We weren't any better than the Seibold era at the end of 2022 and 2024. This is not what's happening now.It's like talking to a bunch of spoilt children. No concept of the fact we were the worst team in the comp at the end of 2020 and then played a gf 2 seasons later having the most successful season we'd had since 2006.
Anyway we should all quit comparing madge to Kevy. I am the worst culprit so ill talk in a language all the kevy hating chimps can understand..
"Together, ape strong"
Give it a rest. We weren't any better than the Seibold era at the end of 2022 and 2024. This is not what's happening now.
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Read the post I was replying to: "end of." My crystal ball is on the blink for this year.Why are you comparing mid-May results with late-August / early-September? We will end up with similar results if the trend continues going the same way it is right now by then.
More accurate reflection:
2024 same round: Broncos 13-12 over SEagles
2023 same round: Broncos: 4-15 loss to Panthers
2022 same round: Broncos 12-40 loss to Panthers
2021 same round: Broncos 12-20 loss to you guessed it - Panthers
2020 same round (Covid affected): Broncos 0-48 to Tigers
Comparatively, Kevvie was getting improvement. Magure was not coming from anywhere near as far back.
Yes but we were certainly better at the start of the season. It was a massive improvement from 2021 and 2020 respectively. We were top 4 and then origin hit, it was the first time Kevy probably had to navigate the period after origin with so many stars missing. Staggs, Cobbo, Haas, Carrigan, Capewell, Oates, Flegler all played origin that year and Kevy put his hand up to recognise he didn't handle that well enough.Give it a rest. We weren't any better than the Seibold era at the end of 2022 and 2024. This is not what's happening now.
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Yes.Anyone see the cheese talking about our boys and Madge ?
Hard truth hopefully fires the boys up.Yes.
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What point are you trying to make: that Kevvie could've regained the dressing room? He had to go. Madge was the best on offer. FWIW, I was pitching for Shaun Wane, who came up under Madge at Wigan.Yes but we were certainly better at the start of the season. It was a massive improvement from 2021 and 2020 respectively. We were top 4 and then origin hit, it was the first time Kevy probably had to navigate the period after origin with so many stars missing. Staggs, Cobbo, Haas, Carrigan, Capewell, Oates, Flegler all played origin that year and Kevy put his hand up to recognise he didn't handle that well enough.
The year after 2023 was handled beautifully and we actually picked up some games during origin. It was sensational. 2024 during origin we couldn't even name a full extended bench due to injuries.
Again the anomaly is 2024 here and you can pretty easily say it was injury affected. 2022 finished in a similar way for different reasons and we made the grand final the following year. Whats to say 2025 wasnt going to be the same outcome? Kevy had done it once before, recently too. We will never know but as it stands. Madge has not improved the team at all. Worst start to a season in 4 years.
Anyone see the cheese talking about our boys and Madge ?
Hard truth hopefully fires the boys up.
We will never know if he had or hadn't lost the playing group. There was no word of it throughout the season, no whispers that the players were divided or against the coach.What point are you trying to make: that Kevvie could've regained the dressing room? He had to go. Madge was the best on offer. FWIW, I was pitching for Shaun Wane, who came up under Madge at Wigan.
They practically voted him out and players came out publicly and said he cant coach lol, outside of staggs or haas sending you a personal video call about it what more "word" do you need?We will never know if he had or hadn't lost the playing group. There was no word of it throughout the season, no whispers that the players were divided or against the coach.
Theres plenty of word around about how unhappy the players are with Madge. Plenty of rumours, whispers and reporters reporting. Nobody seems happy to have madge as the coach. The players look unhappy, the fans are unhappy and frankly... I think he's a dunce. A terrible fit for our playing group..
Imagine the excuses from the playing group with shaun wane, we've had "too technical", "not technical enough", then we'd have "can't understand his tactics because of his accent"... more than 2 losses and he'd get absolutely hammered in the media and the playing group would be against him, unfortunately, solely becuaee he hasn't taken the traditional route and is english. He may be a good coach, but the nrl media wouldn't accept him which would put this frail, weak minded playing group under pressure straight awayWhat point are you trying to make: that Kevvie could've regained the dressing room? He had to go. Madge was the best on offer. FWIW, I was pitching for Shaun Wane, who came up under Madge at Wigan.