- Jul 28, 2016
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How good is that... Shiba reach out to Jiba and turn this into a family affair... how's it not happened yet!!
PLAYER Gehamat Shibasaki
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- Jun 12, 2013
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With Anderson coming next year, where does he play though?
- Mar 4, 2008
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at this stage, most of our backline is set. IMO Anderson will fight it out for one wing position with Arthars
unless Karapani or Shibasaki, absolutely shit the bed during the backend of the season, most positions should be pretty much locked down already.
1. Walsh
2. Karapani
3. Staggs
4. Shibasaki
5. Arthars / Anderson
6. Mam
7. Reynolds.
that's a quality, well balanced backline
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At this stage I'd say he'll compete with Karapani, Arthars and Mariner for the two wing spots.
Staggs isn't moving and Shiba has the left centre spot locked down.
I doubt either wing is absolutely locked down though... Arthars likely has the lead, but Karapani puts in a lot of work with yardage and I was really impressed with the way he went about his work in yardage.
He wasn't always making a lot of meters, but he has really quick feet and was taking the ball in front of the advantage line. It feels like he's less powerful compared to last year, so I'm not sure if his body shape has changed to suit the wing rather than him being centre when he arrived... or if his centre runs were more at broken lines rather than wingers taking it straight into the meat of the defence.
Arthars can be a better runner in yardage, but only if he gets himself between tacklers... but he doesn't do anywhere near enough work.
If Arthars doesn't find himself getting between tacklers he can get really dominated in the tackle... which is one thing that I don't really notice when it comes to Karapani. He doesn't seem to get dominated in tackles, so even if he doesn't have a great hitup he doesn't seem to compound that with a ridiculously slow ptb.
There were times vs the wahs where he got swamped by 3-4 tacklers in yardage so he didn't get far in actual yardage, but he's moving his head, body, legs, arms, etc. to keep his body position forward and make it hard for the defenders to get him on his back.
On Anderson I watch him a little bit and he's pretty good in yardage... he's not got the physicality or speed of Mariner, Arthars or Karapani, but he does seem to get himself between tacklers, so he does try to make it hard work for the defenders... which is what you want. The more the defence is struggling to get you on your back the better the chance of a decent ptb or forcing the defence to go too far and you fall back and get yourself a penalty in yardage.
He definitely doesn't shirk his responsibility in yardage and gets through his workload ... currently averaging 143m per game and he's mostly played centre this year where you're not necessarily expecting them to take all the hitups.
In defence I don't think he's got it in the centres... he seems to get lost, and even if he makes the right read he can struggle physically... so I think whilst he could do a role in the centres he's not someone I'd have huge confidence in. He looks to have the smarts, which you'd expect from storm, so he's an elite finisher off the winger and likely had good hands in the centres to put his winger away. I'd suspect he makes good reads off the wing, because storm just always seem to have good defence, although I think their edges haven't been as great this year.
- Mar 5, 2008
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Left/right out.
Lockysillegitimatechild
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What a problem to have considering we just lost a "superstar" back in cobbo (along with the superstar wage). Mariner and Anderson will potentially be our RESERVE backs. That's quality.
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If Staggs ever considered setting up his winger instead of trying to run over his opposite number Jesse would score more often on the right .
If I was a winger .on the left outside Walsh / Shiba / Ezra would be my preference to Riki / Staggs and Reyno . The left side passes the ball to advantage . The right not so much .
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I would still love to see Staggs in the second row and just see what he's got. The by product being we get Mariner into the team. I just don't see where Mariner fits moving forward, he just doesn't seem a great winger but seems a fantastic centre. I would hate to lose him, particularly after how much we've invested in him and how well he seems to have responded to Maguire.
We also have a few really impressive kids coming through as well, so yeah, just not sure what happens with Deine.
We also have a few really impressive kids coming through as well, so yeah, just not sure what happens with Deine.
Maroons rookie Gehamat Shibasaki set to earn $160k following stunning NRL revival
Just 12 months ago he was languishing on the NRL scrap heap. Now Gehamat Shibasaki has hit the jackpot, with the Maroons bolter set to pocket $160,000 this season following his stunning resurrection.The rugged centre’s superb form this year has also seen him rewarded with promotion to a top 30 NRL contract next season, which means his base salary will rise from $85,000 to $140,000 in 2026.
Throw in his State of Origin debut, which comes with a match payment of $30,000, and Shibasaki has already earned an extra $130,000.
If he stays injury-free for the rest of the season, and plays at least one finals game, the reborn Bronco will celebrate a $160,000 windfall.
Yeah what he said.
- Mar 4, 2008
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so with Gem on a dev contract this year which gives him that base $85k contract ... but it also entitles him to $3k per match.
does that $3k per match cause salary cap issues ... as if he plays every game it would be an extra $72k we hadn't banked on
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Badel reporting that Gem actually initially knocked back our T&T offer, fearing that the $1200-a-week deal would not be enough to sustain his young family if he moved from Townsville to Brisbane. but he had a change of heart.
Broncos recruitment boss Simon Scanlan said:
“He actually pulled out after we offered him the train-and-trial deal,” Scanlan revealed ahead of Shibasaki’s Origin III baptism.
“He said to us he couldn’t do it.
“He told us it would be too hard to do with his family commitments.
“Gehamat would have to leave his partner and young child up there (in Townsville) initially to come down and prove himself.
“But then, after further discussions, he recommitted.
“Since then his family have made the move to Brisbane, so it’s a credit to ‘Gem’ for sticking at it and working so hard.
“All he is doing now is fulfilling the potential that he always did have, but he just knew this was his last chance and he had a responsibility to his young family.
“It was bigger than just Gehamat, he took a risk and it’s paid off for him which is wonderful.”
Shibasaki’s manager Wayde Rushton said
“No-one deserves this more than Gem. He honestly has hit the jackpot,” Rushton said.
“Who would have thought six months ago that Gehamat Shibasaki would be playing State of Origin? He is definitely the lowest-paid Origin player this year.
“We didn’t even put any Origin bonuses in his Broncos contract because at that stage we were just hoping he could play some first-grade games.
“When you meet a person like Gehamat, you hope good things happen.
“We know nice guys don’t always get what they want, but Gem is a good person first and foremost and that’s why I decided to take him on.”
Before Christmas last year, Shibasaki didn’t even have an agent, let alone hope of an NRL comeback. But Rushton praised Broncos coach Michael Maguire for giving him a chance to prove himself:
“’Madge’ (Maguire) needs a huge wrap for turning Gehamat around,” Rushton said.
“He is a man’s man and his training might not be for everyone, but Gem has thrived on Madge’s culture.
“He came down and lived with an uncle and tried his luck on a train-and-trial deal.
“When it came close to whether Brisbane were going to keep him or not, two or three clubs started to show interest.
“They were Sydney clubs, but Gem wanted to stay at the Broncos because that was the club where it all started for him in the under-20s with Patty Carrigan.
“In December, he didn’t have a club, contract or manager and six or seven months later he is an Origin player.
“It’s remarkable.”
Scanlan is not exactly shocked by Shibasaki’s resurrection.
“Gehamat had been in our program before so I knew what he was capable of,”
“The way he played in the juniors is how he plays now. He was always very good defensively and a very good size for a centre.
“Gem always had the talent, but I think seeing his mates he played with (such as Carrigan) go on to play regular NRL and representative football, that gave him the motivation and confidence that he could do it also.
“He just had this burning desire to make it. The only thing that changed was his mindset … this was his last shot at it.”
Shibasaki said
“It was pretty crazy to get a call from Billy, he was one of my heroes as a kid,” Shibasaki said ahead of his Origin debut.
“This means a lot to me, especially for all the Indigenous kids out there, some guys come down (to Brisbane) for boarding school and get homesick and go back home.
“I’ve shown those kids it’s possible if you work hard.
“I have played against a few of the NSW boys (in junior representative teams), but this is a more senior level.
“I will be prepared for this. I’ve done the hard work.”
Broncos recruitment boss Simon Scanlan said:
“He actually pulled out after we offered him the train-and-trial deal,” Scanlan revealed ahead of Shibasaki’s Origin III baptism.
“He said to us he couldn’t do it.
“He told us it would be too hard to do with his family commitments.
“Gehamat would have to leave his partner and young child up there (in Townsville) initially to come down and prove himself.
“But then, after further discussions, he recommitted.
“Since then his family have made the move to Brisbane, so it’s a credit to ‘Gem’ for sticking at it and working so hard.
“All he is doing now is fulfilling the potential that he always did have, but he just knew this was his last chance and he had a responsibility to his young family.
“It was bigger than just Gehamat, he took a risk and it’s paid off for him which is wonderful.”
Shibasaki’s manager Wayde Rushton said
“No-one deserves this more than Gem. He honestly has hit the jackpot,” Rushton said.
“Who would have thought six months ago that Gehamat Shibasaki would be playing State of Origin? He is definitely the lowest-paid Origin player this year.
“We didn’t even put any Origin bonuses in his Broncos contract because at that stage we were just hoping he could play some first-grade games.
“When you meet a person like Gehamat, you hope good things happen.
“We know nice guys don’t always get what they want, but Gem is a good person first and foremost and that’s why I decided to take him on.”
Before Christmas last year, Shibasaki didn’t even have an agent, let alone hope of an NRL comeback. But Rushton praised Broncos coach Michael Maguire for giving him a chance to prove himself:
“’Madge’ (Maguire) needs a huge wrap for turning Gehamat around,” Rushton said.
“He is a man’s man and his training might not be for everyone, but Gem has thrived on Madge’s culture.
“He came down and lived with an uncle and tried his luck on a train-and-trial deal.
“When it came close to whether Brisbane were going to keep him or not, two or three clubs started to show interest.
“They were Sydney clubs, but Gem wanted to stay at the Broncos because that was the club where it all started for him in the under-20s with Patty Carrigan.
“In December, he didn’t have a club, contract or manager and six or seven months later he is an Origin player.
“It’s remarkable.”
Scanlan is not exactly shocked by Shibasaki’s resurrection.
“Gehamat had been in our program before so I knew what he was capable of,”
“The way he played in the juniors is how he plays now. He was always very good defensively and a very good size for a centre.
“Gem always had the talent, but I think seeing his mates he played with (such as Carrigan) go on to play regular NRL and representative football, that gave him the motivation and confidence that he could do it also.
“He just had this burning desire to make it. The only thing that changed was his mindset … this was his last shot at it.”
Shibasaki said
“It was pretty crazy to get a call from Billy, he was one of my heroes as a kid,” Shibasaki said ahead of his Origin debut.
“This means a lot to me, especially for all the Indigenous kids out there, some guys come down (to Brisbane) for boarding school and get homesick and go back home.
“I’ve shown those kids it’s possible if you work hard.
“I have played against a few of the NSW boys (in junior representative teams), but this is a more senior level.
“I will be prepared for this. I’ve done the hard work.”
They allow for it, you can use Development players from round one so you have to be able to pay them. But also know the chances of more than one playing at all is pretty slim chances. if you had a set figure to keep aside every year- 30- $3000 payment you would come well under budget every year.
You can have up to six and the Broncos have released Development players this year so they're not even using their full budget of six.
That's what I was saying yesterday, things aren't too bad really, he can earn more than enough this year and well in front of what he would have earned.
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