Ashley Klein is a corrupt dud

Cult said:
Define a hipdrop, define offside, define a crusher tackle? They’re all grey area bullshit that can be called whenever the referee decides he wants to call them.
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My main argument for these definitions is it also can change ref to ref which doesn't help with the confusion.
 
Fernando said:
100%. This is what all the game manipulation and rigged bullshit on here really boils down to. Watch the opening sets of a match, we are immediately left on the ground at the play the ball and out of position before a 6 again has even been called. Some people on here have really lost their minds lmao
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Phew !
Glad to see I`m not the only one who sees this .

But it`s the ref/ bunker / NSWRL / Vlandys /Uncle Nick / illuminati plotting against the poor innocent team from Brisbane .
 
Big Pete said:
Not sure on the official explanation, but when there's a serious injury the play is immediately called and you can't play on.

Think Corey Oates vs. Penrith FW2 2017. Suffered a nasty concussion, Penrith ended up with the ball and were streaking down field when it was ruled back.

Now 25 years ago, the Broncos weren't so lucky.



Not a good look. Neither was that Latrell try and since you can surrender in tackles without being touched it should have been ruled as such.
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Meanwhile Ezra Mam is dying in backplay after a knee clash and they still get their quick tap with a 12 man defensive line. Look, you’re right. Maybe Klein isn’t corrupt, but the rules don’t seem to go both ways and there’s literal examples in games where something is called once but isn’t called in favour of us and it’s genuinely unexplainable. But when it happens so ****ing often it’s difficult not to think there’s something weird happening. You cherry picking singular parts of responses that you can argue and skipping other parts shows that even you can’t explain some of it. It’s weird, it’s unexplainable. It’s probably not intentional corruption but the Penrith junior might have some internalised hatred for us. We are a polarising team that often make fans of other clubs irrational. I ref high level sport and I know it’s possible that refs have those same irrational thoughts toward a team. Maybe you’re right, but 38 years of NSW media in your ears can create that kind of shit and the evidence stacks up.
 
Cult said:
You cherry picking singular parts of responses that you can argue and skipping other parts shows that even you can’t explain some of it. It’s weird, it’s unexplainable.
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What did I skip over? I quote specific parts because each post makes multiple points and typically I'd just be repeating myself. I can address your point but touching on things that happened against Manly or Sydney has little to do with this current conversation.

As far as Mam/Egan. One happened in back-play, the other happened in the tackle. When it's in the vicinity of play it has to be stopped.
 
Brocko said:
Define what an effective tackle is currently.
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You stop the guy in his tracks .
Wrap up the ball then put him on the ground ideally on his back . With the defenders peeling off and not being behind the advantage line or lying in the ruck .

Alternatively .
Broncos - hug and lose 1st contact battle . 2 nd man assists with wrapping up the ball . 3 rd man makes a weak attempt at going low , misses , so jogs alongside the ball carrier while his 2 team mates struggle to stop the momentum then get into a tangle with the ball player as they desperately try to stop momentum .
Alternately get behind the ball carrier to pull him down and then try to step back over the ball carrier and slow the PTB . (Patty Carrigan Special )
Or the 2nd coming of Nathan Hindmarsh and flop in when the ball is already dead .

Back to the sand pit boys .
 
Big Pete said:
What was Klein supposed to do? Ignore the obvious second effort from Arthars to drive Khan-Pereira closer to touch? Ignore Walsh being obviously off-side? He even allowed Preston to stay on the field despite his questionable tackle.

Yeah Tuaupiki could have been binned. However it was 34-12, come on now.
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You are so pedantic. No one is saying we didn't deserve a few of the penalties.

No way did we deserve 13 penalties against us.
 
Big Pete said:
Okay, which ones were wrong?
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How would you know when it comes to the six agains?

From what I saw:
- Side line penalty
- AKP hold down penalty
- Patty binning penalty
- Walsh penalty (he was offside but he didn't get involved, he can't just disappear)


Let's also not forget, Brisbane challenged two additional penalties that were subsequently overturned.
 
The JRiki tackle off the ball penalty was bs. Riki stopped the tackle and he just ran into his shoulder. And still got crunched
 
Big Pete said:
Okay, which ones were wrong?
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As I said last night, I didn't watch most of the game but - this is how they get you!
It's not about the penalties that are given one way, but the penalties that are not given the other way. 8-0 or something at one stage? Come on. The Broncos were hopelessly ill-disciplined (well, that may be the case) but their opposition were flawless? Doubt.
 
Big Pete said:
Pull what 'shit'? Hold you to account and have you provide examples of his corruption from yesterday? I'd be happy to go over the game and review each call if you want but I understand at this time you may have more pressing matters.

Even in the examples I gave, it could have been worse. Warriors fans would argue that it should have been worse and P. Riki should have gone for 10. I've certainly seen those ruled that way before.
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Your argument was poor. He's corrupt.
You have 3 shitty examples. You didn't talk about all the BS 6 against he blows every week, the shitty penalties for god knows what reasons, and most of the things people talk about here.

Agree to disagree. He's corrupt as is the NRL.

Itll come out one day.
 
Nerd said:
Unless your Ashley Klein you can't possibly know that.
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Yes that argument could be used by me too. He’s the guy that gave Gillette 10 in the bin for being 50 metres onside isn’t he? Nobody is that corrupt, nobody. that’s incompetence in its purest form.
 
I just saw the Damien Cook “no try” - not sure who was in the Bunker but does anybody agree with that decision? Not sure if that was corruption but it’s definitely incompetence.
 
tommy said:
Yes that argument could be used by me too. He’s the guy that gave Gillette 10 in the bin for being 50 metres onside isn’t he? Nobody is that corrupt, nobody. that’s incompetence in its purest form.
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That was that other dweeb....forgot his name. Ben someone I think. Doesn't ref anymore I think
 
Big Pete said:
That was with Barnett, yeah? I saw something similar floating around. I'd have to see the proper context. Whether right or wrong, the officials will manage games where they'll give teams the benefit of the doubt and assume there's an element of milking with players getting tangled. The old fool me once, fool me twice etc. It could have been a set restart but I'm sure you could find a few set restarts the Broncos were lucky to get away with themselves.
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Just on this, I'm not calling for a re-start on either. This is basically a big part of the problem. If there were no six agains, would that even be a penalty? Of course it wouldn't, so why is it a six again?

The new ref seems to be getting mostly positive reviews and why? Because if he blows the whistle, you normally go yep, that's hard to argue. The other refs, you are constantly thinking, what the heck was that for?

Unless it is a CLEAR breach of the rules, keep the whistle out of the ref's mouth. And if you do blow it, you need to be consistent and you can't do that on discretionary penalties which are at worst 50/50.

I don't think anyone really has an issue with the clear penalties yesterday and Brissy definitely committed some of those but it is the head scratching ones in between that leave you fuming and especially when its compounded by the Barnett high shot and Tuaipiki non-binnings when those are the clear ones that should be given. Not the Patty completely normal tackle length sin binning ones.
 
Sproj said:
Just on this, I'm not calling for a re-start on either. This is basically a big part of the problem. If there were no six agains, would that even be a penalty? Of course it wouldn't, so why is it a six again?

The new ref seems to be getting mostly positive reviews and why? Because if he blows the whistle, you normally go yep, that's hard to argue. The other refs, you are constantly thinking, what the heck was that for?

Unless it is a CLEAR breach of the rules, keep the whistle out of the ref's mouth. And if you do blow it, you need to be consistent and you can't do that on discretionary penalties which are at worst 50/50.

I don't think anyone really has an issue with the clear penalties yesterday and Brissy definitely committed some of those but it is the head scratching ones in between that leave you fuming and especially when its compounded by the Barnett high shot and Tuaipiki non-binnings when those are the clear ones that should be given. Not the Patty completely normal tackle length sin binning ones.
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That carrigan tackle was one of the longest tackles I have ever seen. Right after he warned them about infringements. That was obvious as it gets. Your argument falls on deaf ears when with a straight face you say that was a normal length tackle.
 
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