PRE-GAME [Round 17, 2026] - Broncos vs Roosters

It'll be a Fine and nothing more, I'm a bit concerned about how utterly shit he was tonight though, that better be out of his system by next week.
Nothing surprising or concerning about Staggs performance to be honest. This is who he is as a player, someone who relies on physical aggression to dominate the opposition. He completely destroys weaker centres but if the opponent can match his intensity (which will obviously happen in origins and final games), he doesn't have the skills, footy IQ or that extra gear to fall back on. His preferred way of defending the edge is also very unique and somewhat suboptimal requiring the winger to play around him. Better than solid centre and you would love to have at him at your club, but just not elite big game player
 
Nothing surprising or concerning about Staggs performance to be honest. This is who he is as a player, someone who relies on physical aggression to dominate the opposition. He completely destroys weaker centres but if the opponent can match his intensity (which will obviously happen in origins and final games), he doesn't have the skills, footy IQ or that extra gear to fall back on. His preferred way of defending the edge is also very unique and somewhat suboptimal requiring the winger to play around him. Better than solid centre and you would love to have at him at your club, but just not elite big game player
Last time we played the roosters he was dominated physically. Savala and tupou belted him every time he ran it. You could see how frustrated he was getting.
 
So who do we get back for this game? Haas, Staggs, Walsh, ??
 
So who do we get back for this game? Haas, Staggs, Walsh, ??
With this weekend being a bye thankfully, I would expect all 3 of them will turn up next Friday along with Patty maybe 🤔.

Billy could be back for Sharks game on the back of playing 2 cup games starting this weekend. Not sure how Jensen & Mariner are tracking.
 
When I was watching QLD play, with such dynamic players (Ponga, Munster, Walker and Grant). I wonder if we need to **** off the link forward like they did. Ponga was mainly the link.

Just use Walsh as the link man and let him control the whole left side by himself linking with Piakura/Grant/Karapani.

While Reyno/Duffy sit in the middle of field to put up kicks if we stretch the field one side with Mam on left or right side of our halfback as a short pass option if the kick isn't on.

Basically, shift Patty and X to prop. So you'd have Patty / Haas start with Priki / X coming off the bench.

11,12 and 13 will be defensive minded and making the hard carries when needed. JRiki/Piakura as 2nd row. And use a 3-interchange lock/2nd row rotation. Rogers > Talty/Francis (he played really well in U19 origin) > Semu going hard as they can at "lock" for 20 or so minutes and JGos as 2R backup if JRiki/Piakura are gassed.

That way our backrow can lead line speed and focus on keeping our ruck tidy in defense.

Basically, trying to simplify our attack to "less cooks in the kitchen" and fast PTB AND fixing our forward pack "glue". It just falls apart once the opposition gets the slightest ruck speed.

Just food for thought. As I said in previous games, we have no structure or rotation that we can rely on.
 
When I was watching QLD play, with such dynamic players (Ponga, Munster, Walker and Grant). I wonder if we need to **** off the link forward like they did. Ponga was mainly the link.

Just use Walsh as the link man and let him control the whole left side by himself linking with Piakura/Grant/Karapani.

While Reyno/Duffy sit in the middle of field to put up kicks if we stretch the field one side with Mam on left or right side of our halfback as a short pass option if the kick isn't on.

Basically, shift Patty and X to prop. So you'd have Patty / Haas start with Priki / X coming off the bench.

11,12 and 13 will be defensive minded and making the hard carries when needed. JRiki/Piakura as 2nd row. And use a 3-interchange lock/2nd row rotation. Rogers > Talty/Francis (he played really well in U19 origin) > Semu going hard as they can at "lock" for 20 or so minutes and JGos as 2R backup if JRiki/Piakura are gassed.

That way our backrow can lead line speed and focus on keeping our ruck tidy in defense.

Basically, trying to simplify our attack to "less cooks in the kitchen" and fast PTB AND fixing our forward pack "glue". It just falls apart once the opposition gets the slightest ruck speed.

Just food for thought. As I said in previous games, we have no structure or rotation that we can rely on.
The link man in the middle is a weird one... it's so prevalent across the league that it's become very obvious when they're passing and it just seems to slow shit down if defence decides to cheat up on it and just go straight to the backline.

I'm not a huge fan of it and I'm surprised it's still a part of the meta, but I think the issue is that the middle forward doesn't become enough of a threat... they need to be hitting that short man more often to put the defence in two minds.

It becomes very obvious when the link man is going out the back and just gives the defence time to slide off.

I think the bigger issue comes from splitting the halves left and right, but then the defence can just follow where the fullback is going, because he's the only one with freedom to roam both sides.

Storm have never gone with the ball playing lock... they might've gone their closest in recent years with Loiero, but I don't think he's much of a ball player... he's just pure link man.

One thing that makes storm's attack so good when it's going is they have almost a diamond shape at the ruck

Dummy half as the point of the diamond, a half at first receiver either side and then fullback behind the dummy half.

From there they can do a fair bit, but quite often it will be half passing to half instead of link man to half... if shit's going down in the attack it's basically hooker > half > half > fullback.

All 4 members of the spine and everyone else just running lines around them, but acting as legitimate options ready to receive it.

I'm surprised more teams haven't gone that route because it basically forces your best players (the spine) to be touching the ball as often as possible.

It also becomes harder for the defence to pick up the fullback if he leaves his movement late... or if the halves and fullback are moving either side of the ruck all the time.
 
The link man in the middle is a weird one... it's so prevalent across the league that it's become very obvious when they're passing and it just seems to slow shit down if defence decides to cheat up on it and just go straight to the backline.

I'm not a huge fan of it and I'm surprised it's still a part of the meta, but I think the issue is that the middle forward doesn't become enough of a threat... they need to be hitting that short man more often to put the defence in two minds.

It becomes very obvious when the link man is going out the back and just gives the defence time to slide off.

I think the bigger issue comes from splitting the halves left and right, but then the defence can just follow where the fullback is going, because he's the only one with freedom to roam both sides.

Storm have never gone with the ball playing lock... they might've gone their closest in recent years with Loiero, but I don't think he's much of a ball player... he's just pure link man.

One thing that makes storm's attack so good when it's going is they have almost a diamond shape at the ruck

Dummy half as the point of the diamond, a half at first receiver either side and then fullback behind the dummy half.

From there they can do a fair bit, but quite often it will be half passing to half instead of link man to half... if shit's going down in the attack it's basically hooker > half > half > fullback.

All 4 members of the spine and everyone else just running lines around them, but acting as legitimate options ready to receive it.

I'm surprised more teams haven't gone that route because it basically forces your best players (the spine) to be touching the ball as often as possible.

It also becomes harder for the defence to pick up the fullback if he leaves his movement late... or if the halves and fullback are moving either side of the ruck all the time.
Yeah, I agree. Basically, Panthers did it with Yeo being a second ball player to Cleary or Murray does it at souths, even erin clark at wahs, but these are elite ball players who would be playing halfback if any smaller. Loiero, Peak Cam McInnes, Cotter. All just defensive players. Sure, you will see them shift the ball sometimes, but that is a rare occasion when they KNOW there is space on the other side of the field.

Patty and X are too big and slow to do any of those passes, and ****, I'd prefer them running lines and confusing the defense while worrying about a spine player like Mam or Walsh who actually have the ball.

The only reason I say to split left and right side, is that Walsh's acceleration can usually beat most defensive shifts, especially on a fast play the ball. And if they scramble defense, usually there will be space on the left or a 2 on 1 with the opposition winger. And if the spine takes on the line more, they can usually generate a faster PTB anyway.

And I can't even answer your question about why more teams don't do it, Outside of Penrith and Warriors, who use Yeo and Clark to distribute ball. Knights, Manly, Sharks, Dolphins and Roosters don't use a heavy link forward role. That is 5/8 top teams this year.
 
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