Ashes Discussion
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I do think Green needs to be given as much red-ball as possible if he’s going to fulfill his number 6 role properly. So perhaps that means missing a tour here or there in the next year or two and playing Shield or County instead, playing 5-10 shield games rather than say 4 tests in the same time.
Another low score and the calls will grow louder. At the moment we’re beating up on England a bit and can carry his stats so far, but he doesn’t want to get to the 15-20 test mark and still averaging ~20-25 and getting out as badly as he has lately
The article was pretty fair, it has Waugh and O’Keefe analysing Green technical flaw and then discussing alternatives if it continues and how he can improve.
England just exposed a flaw in Aussie cricket’s golden boy... and it’s left Marsh ‘lurking’
England just exposed a flaw in Aussie cricket’s golden boy... and it’s left Marsh ‘lurking’
www.foxsports.com.au
Marsh was raised by D. Martyn.
Green is the golden boy of Australian cricket who surely has a long, bright future ahead of him – but he risks opening the door to competitors in the short term should he not be able to overcome the issue.
Waugh acknowledges Marsh.
Waugh doesn’t share that view, but agrees that Marsh isn’t entirely out of contention to play against England this series.
“I suppose Mitch Marsh is lurking around the corner,” Waugh said. “But I think Australia has invested heavily in Cameron Green.
“He bowled beautifully at the Gabba. I think he’s a genuine all-rounder and gives you great balance.
“I think while Mitch Marsh is spoken about, I think Cameron Green will get a lot of chances this summer.
“But for his own good and his own career he’ll want to start turning his form around with the bat. I mean, he’s made runs in Sheffield Shield cricket this year but he’s been out LBW three times, so he needs to think about it, but not burden himself with it. It’s a bit of a juggling act.”
It's pretty standard Australian cricket mid Test writing- two players do the heavy lifting with some technical stuff and throw up an alternative should it continue.
I don't think there is anything wrong with anything that is written, anytime you get out the same way four games in a row it should be noticed and written about if you're good at your job.
People also need to accept that an all rounder will very rarely do both well in a game. Green bowled well at the 'Gabba but is batting terribly at the moment.
He has only batted twice for too failures. Lets see how he goes in the next few tests. I would bat him at 7 after Carey. His bowling has been good. Last summer he bowled sparingly due to injury and explains the time taken to get his first wicket. Marsh is certainly peaking too and could also be picked at some stage but Green does not deserve to lose his place atm.
BooKhaki
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If Green can't bat at 6, he shouldn't be in the team. He has had 2 innings, he will be given the entire series. If we get to a point of picking him to bat 7, I'd go with Neser ahead of him for that role.
Haven't you heard? Lyon sucks and finger spin doesn't work.
Big Del
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Joe Burns has one openers spot for Qld, Bryce Street who just scored a ton for Aus A is the other opener .
So how is Renshaw gonna get a run at opening ?
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Burns is more than capable of batting at 4-5, it'd be a direct swap in role with Renshaw.
BooKhaki
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I reckon Burns should have always been a middle order bat.
Renshaw just hasn’t got runs, it’s as simple as that. Been dropped from the Queensland and struggled.
He really hasn’t preformed since 17/18.
17/18- 804 runs with three 100.
18/19- 394 runs with 0 100.
19/20- 182 runs with 0 100- dropped in February after 29 innings without 100.
20/21- 500 runs with 2 100
21/22- 318 runs with 1 100
I think naming him for Australia A shows he’s still supported but he hasn’t returned that support with runs for Queensland.
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Yes it cost us knocking off early last night
The True King
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I think the travelling spinners struggle so much here because their pace attacks are usually getting decimated by batsmen like Ponting, Smith, Clarke, Hussey, Hayden, Gilchrist etc. Aside from the recent India side that came out, the English team in 2010/11 and RSA in 2016/17, I can't think of many teams that have really had parity with our pack attack.
Of those 3 sides, if you were to pull out the spinners from those tours:
England 2010/11 - Swann 15 wickets @ 39.80 v. Doherty 3 wickets @102
RSA 2016/17 - Maharaj 4 wickets @ 40.50 v. Lyon 6 wickets @ 57.66
India 2020/21 - Ashwin 12 wickets @ 28.83 v. Lyon 9 wickets @ 55.11
Aside from Ashwin, the numbers aren't impressive but they do show travelling spinners have had the better of their Australian counterparts when the pace attacks have also had success.
The bottom line is don't bring out a rubbish pace attack to Aus and expect to do well.
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The pressure of Nathan Lyon bowling dot after dot took it's toll there, allowed the likes of Green to bowl full and challenge the edge knowing they'd be looking to score
