BHQ Picks the Broncos team: WINGERS

[simmo77]

Yow Yeh outside of Hodges obviously but I thought the experience of Kemp albeit limited would be good to have with newby Beale

 

[Kimlo]

Yow Yeh and Kemp are my selections.

 

[Big Pete]

As for Kemp - Going to the Warriors in a REALLY BAD side, across the country away from his family, new environment etc. Still young and in-experienced. You can forgive him for that. Even the BEST players in the comp are guilty of it.

That's such a cop out.

He was ordinary, no two buts about it and it wasn't because he went missing or hardly made an impact, in attack he offered little from dummy half and in defence he was found out on a number of occasions.

His career isn't over yet...but 2011 is going to be a very important year.

 

[Coxy]

I don't think there's any denying his 2009 was terrible, and he has to (and HAS) cop that on the chin.

But 2010 was pure bad luck. He had an excellent game against the Cows in round 1 (not just his match winning try either), was ordinary in a very ordinary team against Canberra, and then had his ribs smashed to bits in round 3. Never recovered from that.

Hard to blame him!

 

[Big Pete]

Where have I blamed him for 2010? I said he failed to make an impression (except for the Raiders game) in a highly transient (thank you thesaurus) position, 2009 is where Kemp was exposed.

Excellent? Then what was Johns in Origin 2 2005? Superfragalisdicexpallyawesome? Kemp had a good game, he did well to trap Ty Williams and send him over the sideline and to score the match winner but he did have issues in defence and from dummy half.

To be fair to Kemp, I thought Folau's biggest issue as a player was his inability to combine with his outside man - Yow Yeh went from looking like a gamebreaker to dopey mcgee who couldn't catch anything other than a cold.

I think we can all agree when I say: hopefully he rediscovers his 2008 form.

 

[Russo]

Yowie and Gagai

Kemp was good last decade, yes injured last year but before injury showed nothing at season start, the move to NZ has ruined him and he should try out for the NQ Fury

 

[Big Pete]

You were trying to dismiss the year by including it as a write off - at the end of the day it was a bad season and he was upstaged by a rookie.

Nobody is saying he should be sacked, just that this season is going to be very important for him as well as Yow Yeh.

 

[Big Pete]

So you've never written a player off after 3 games?

Geez the Mitch Rivett's and Alwyn Simpson's of the world must love you Rocky. [icon_wink

Honestly, in those 10 games he exhibited enough crabbing and poor tackle attempts to warrant his dismissal.

For apparently a great winger, he was exposed to be your typical Robertson esque finisher.

 

[Big Pete]

Who's to say it was really out of character?

He's only had one good season, what's to say it wasn't just good form?

That's why 2011 is very important for Denan, he needs to answer those questions.

 

[Porthoz]

2008 shows what Kemp is capable of, there can be no denying it, no matter what 2009 and 2010 brought.
He's not old enough to be physically past his best, so the question will be whether Ivan can bring out the best of him, and whether Denan himself can mentally get back to his best.

 

[GCBRONCO]

2008 shows what Kemp is capable of, there can be no denying it, no matter what 2009 and 2010 brought.
He's not old enough to be physically past his best, so the question will be whether Ivan can bring out the best of him, and whether Denan himself can mentally get back to his best.

Not necessarily, he has potential but that alone cannot carry him forever especially when the club has players of the standard of Gagai next in line, there have been plenty of players in the past who have had a great first season and then failed to live upto that standard be it through injuries or poor form, Leon Bott in 2005 is a good example of a player who failed to carry on that form into the future.

 

[Big Pete]

Fair point, but tough go comparing Kemp to Bott - I think Tim Smith would be a better example.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Leon Bott is a bad example, he didn't have the sort of year that Kemp had in 2008.

His not a bad example at all, he may not have achieved as much as Kemp in 2008 but he still had a strong season and it still shows that a player who has a strong season can fail to back it up in coming seasons. It doesn't change the fact that Kemp can't ride the success of one season forever and with two mixed season's built up already I don't think its unreasonable to expect him to have to step up to show that it wasn't just a one off season, if he doesn't then Gagai should be next in line.

 

[Coxy]

Leon Bott is a bad example, he didn't have the sort of year that Kemp had in 2008.

His not a bad example at all, he may not have achieved as much as Kemp in 2008 but he still had a strong season and it still shows that a player who has a strong season can fail to back it up in coming seasons. It doesn't change the fact that Kemp can't ride the success of one season forever and with two mixed season's built up already I don't think its unreasonable to expect him to have to step up to show that it wasn't just a one off season, if he doesn't then Gagai should be next in line.

Absolutely. Although AFAIC, Yow Yeh is in the exact same boat.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Leon Bott is a bad example, he didn't have the sort of year that Kemp had in 2008.

His not a bad example at all, he may not have achieved as much as Kemp in 2008 but he still had a strong season and it still shows that a player who has a strong season can fail to back it up in coming seasons. It doesn't change the fact that Kemp can't ride the success of one season forever and with two mixed season's built up already I don't think its unreasonable to expect him to have to step up to show that it wasn't just a one off season, if he doesn't then Gagai should be next in line.

Absolutely. Although AFAIC, Yow Yeh is in the exact same boat.

Defintely Coxy, I believe both have something to prove this season.

 

[Porthoz]

Leon Bott is a bad example, he didn't have the sort of year that Kemp had in 2008.

His not a bad example at all, he may not have achieved as much as Kemp in 2008 but he still had a strong season and it still shows that a player who has a strong season can fail to back it up in coming seasons. It doesn't change the fact that Kemp can't ride the success of one season forever and with two mixed season's built up already I don't think its unreasonable to expect him to have to step up to show that it wasn't just a one off season, if he doesn't then Gagai should be next in line.

I never implied that Kemp has some sort of credit for his 2008 season. I mean that he has showed the ability, prowess, what ever you want to call it, to be a very good winger. Whether he and Henjak can bring it to the fore again is of course the question.

If anything, it puts more responsibility on his shoulders, like Yow Yeh.
But let's not forget that having Folau as your centre, or your ribs crunched by Vatuvei in the third round, makes things a bit tough... [icon_razz1

 

[Je$ter]

Simple as the fact that Kemp played shit in his opportunities at the Warriors. Along comes Kevin Locke who actually played well and kept him out of a position.

As Coxy said, both Kemp and Yow Yeh have a lot to prove this year. They both had second year syndrome and Kemp has to prove that his 2008 was no fluke and he can overcome his 2010 setbacks.

 

[Big_Dave]

Kemp is just another Stu Kelly style player.
Has pace and can finish off a try.
Both are suspect under the high ball and can be poor in defense.
Both gets dominated too much for my liking running from dummy half.
In saying that, I would still have Kemp on one wing in front of a Beale or a Norman