Foordy
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If this is your position, I’d hate to imagine how Wolfie feels
this was @Wolfie when Carrigan was compared to Gallen
this was @Wolfie when Carrigan was compared to Gallen
Kooly87
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About 95% of the sides in the competition need Harry Grant.
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Kooly87
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Which is about as close as I could get to correct because assuming he's playing for the 16th team then the other 15 sides would all be improved by adding Harry Grant.
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Just messing about, thought that was pretty clear.
Kooly87
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No I got what you meant - I was being somewhat tongue in cheek too. Obviously if you have Cam Smith or Damien Cook or even Brandon Smith then you probably don't desperately need Harry Grant, but I think in general he'd improve almost any side he played for and he's very likely going to be a million dollar player before long.
rnabokov
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Mate, you helped build that bandwagon and I am so glad you did.
Carrigan and Haas are in the NRL top 10 and 20 for All Runs, All Run Metres, Post Contact Metres and Tackles Made. Paraphrasing what you said above about their ages, that is fantastic. The only blot on Payne's record is that he sits in the top 30 for Ineffective Tackles.
In the Roosters game, Carrigan scored 102 post contact metres. The best the Roosters forwards did was JWH and Liu with 58. Patty also topped the tackle count with 43.
Add to our pack a fully fit Lodge, a hopefully smarter, sensible TPJ, same for Flegler, and add Turpin with a decent running game, then next year, we will have one of the very best packs going around. To complete that I would certainly be looking at developing Staggs for the back row to offset Fifita's exit.
The biggest question mark then is who will be our FB, so that our spine can make use of the quality in that pack.
Kooly87
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Well it's a long shot, but if by some small miracle he ever makes it onto the field without one of his body parts spontaneously combusting, we're still contractually obligated to pay Jack Bird for another 12 months so he could be an option.
rnabokov
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Plan A, definitely. However because of the risk of that spontaneous combustion, we need a Plan B. Niu? Herbie?
Sproj
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The problem is though, as good as he likely could be at fullback, the problem remains that coming back from two knee recos, I am not sure his body could put up with all the running he would need to do at fullback.
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His body couldn't handle running for a bus apparently, let alone at Fullback.
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“Talk dirty to me.”
@Wolfie, 2020.
Jokes aside, you were right. The kid has been a beacon of hope in an otherwise awful year.
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Wolfie
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Foordy
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Id have Carrigan at fullback
couldn't do worse than Boyd
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Post contact metres are only important when tied to either a line break or offload. That is why no roosters forward had more than 58. They are extremely well coached and know the importance of speed and getting to the next tackle as soon as possible. Slow dragged out post contact metres just help to give time for the defence to reset.
It is important that the next coach understands modern game philosophy and drill these basic responsibilities. Bellamy and Robinson are so good at getting there players to play the game right.
Our pack has been poor this year but hopefully a strong coach can fix them.
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Some posters won't like to hear you speak ill of the former captain, who is going great guns don't you know?
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The only great gun out there involving Boyd is the one behind the barn.
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we have next to zero support play for our forwards, which is simply insane in 2020 but here we are...
So, PCM would be something to hang your hat on if we had quality and consistent support running off the hip for any offloads..
Some of our forwards have differing skill set but the sum isnt adding up to a whole currently...
i mean, if you put TPJ (who seems to be staying?) in the 8 or 10, and ask him to take at least 2 hit ups per 6 with say Niu, Bird or Milf running off the hip for each of them...then in that structure you certainly want PCM as that equates to more potential TPJ offloads...
but as above, we seemingly have no structure whatsoever, no one knows what they are supposed to do and therefore no metric worthy of the name should be applied to such a mess of a team....
So, PCM would be something to hang your hat on if we had quality and consistent support running off the hip for any offloads..
Some of our forwards have differing skill set but the sum isnt adding up to a whole currently...
i mean, if you put TPJ (who seems to be staying?) in the 8 or 10, and ask him to take at least 2 hit ups per 6 with say Niu, Bird or Milf running off the hip for each of them...then in that structure you certainly want PCM as that equates to more potential TPJ offloads...
but as above, we seemingly have no structure whatsoever, no one knows what they are supposed to do and therefore no metric worthy of the name should be applied to such a mess of a team....
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