Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2022

[Johnny92]

The game yesterday showed he was up to it… if people are complaining about a play the ball error and a forward pass where he was trying to create a piece of magic as reasons he shouldn’t be in first grade need to reconsider the fact that they are to very abnormal errors to happen especially a bad play of the ball. Give him a pre-season in the books and send him out there as a 19 year old gun who is gonna whoop ass. You are so worried about development cause Dearden did shit. **** it the levels of difference the two are on at the same age is gigantic. My view on the matter is the teams performance is more important than developing players ‘properly’ (there’s no fucken proper way to develop a player, it just happens naturally and authentically for each different player). Chuck him in and let’s fucken tear it up next year is my opinion.

I totally agree with you
You've got to remember yesterday he wasn't playing the bottom placed intrust super cup team he was tearing a team apart that lost like 2 games all year, minor premiers and won the premiership.

 

[theshed]

I totally agree with you
You've got to remember yesterday he wasn't playing the bottom placed intrust super cup team he was tearing a team apart that lost like 2 games all year, minor premiers and won the premiership.

Turning him into a long term centre would be such a waste of his kick returns. Just needs some time to further develop his passing game. Having him floating on the right with Reynolds going deep into the line and having Staggs and Cobbo as options would be a nightmare.

 

[Jedhead]

I totally agree with you
You've got to remember yesterday he wasn't playing the bottom placed intrust super cup team he was tearing a team apart that lost like 2 games all year, minor premiers and won the premiership.

Very good point. i think many of us already see him as a decent compensation package for the loss of the eyeliner, whiteliner junkie. The fact he ponied up for 40 tickets for kids from his community to enjoy the GF suggests he’s a far better person as well. He’s fast becoming my favourite and he’s not even completed a full preseason yet. Giddy up!!

 

[BroncosFever]

You are so worried about development cause Dearden did shit.

Was this directed at me?

Players do need to be nurtured initially, some need it more and some need it less, but they all need it. You can't just throw them in and watch them drown, that's not how it works.

I have barely said anything about Dearden, maybe you have me confused for someone else.

 

[Fitzy]

Was this directed at me?

Players do need to be nurtured initially, some need it more and some need it less, but they all need it. You can't just throw them in and watch them drown, that's not how it works.

I have barely said anything about Dearden, maybe you have me confused for someone else.

It could be but it was general to the broncoshq

 

[Johnny92]

Turning him into a long term centre would be such a waste of his kick returns. Just needs some time to further develop his passing game.

Yeah I honestly feel he's going to be wasted in the centres long term with Staggs on the other side and the bigger body for the kick returns and just think what a handful it will be cobbo and staggs popping up on the one side.
The passing game i don't think would be too far off if he's training full time as a fullback not as a centre.

 

[theshed]

Yeah I honestly feel he's going to be wasted in the centres long term with Staggs on the other side and the bigger body for the kick returns and just think what a handful it will be cobbo and staggs popping up on the one side.
The passing game i don't think would be too far off if he's training full time as a fullback not as a centre.

I’d like to see him play another half season or so in Q Cup at fullback. He’s only played a handful games there and he’s improved in a lot of areas in that short period of time. A full preseason and 10 or so more games in cup and I think he could be anything. He’s one of the talents that missed out on a lot of footy due to covid

 

[Johnny92]

I’d like to see him play another half season in Q Cup at fullback. He’s only played a handful games there and he’s improved in a lot of areas in that short period of time. A full preseason and 10 or so more games in cup and I think he could be anything. He’s one of the talents that missed out on a lot of footy due to covid

Going back and playing those last few games for wynnum really was a good move and yeah you can see improvement every games he's played. After a full pre season and trials might be impossible to not pick him at 1 for the first round.
I wonder if starting Herbie or Nui at 1 and have Cobbo in the centres to start and swap them through the game to give him time at the back would be a option

 

[theshed]

Hopefully Billy takes a shine to Cobbo as a future QLD fullback option and starts investing some time into grooming him for the role.

 

[broncoscope]

Turbo isn't a bad comparison in style but he had a lot more skills with the ball than Cobbo.

At the same age in NYC Turbo had 16 try assists and 32 line breaks from 14 games with 20 tries so he's a long way in front there.

Even tackle breaks aren't close 98 v 70.

He averaged 227m and had that unbelievable game of 486m against New Zealand and four tries.

But again Turbo was probably 40 games ahead of Cobbo.

Don't forget NYC was a bit like touch football, not much defence.

 

[Fitzy]

Hopefully Billy takes a shine to Cobbo as a future QLD fullback option and starts investing some time into grooming him for the role.

I don’t necessarily agree… stuff like positioning and shit will help but they are about as different as two fullbacks can get… That might have been useful with Walshy but not Selwyn

 

[TimWhatley]

I have a feeling Cobbo will be starting the year in Qcup. He's one of our least experienced players and he was only really filling in for Staggs anyway.

 

[theshed]

I don’t necessarily agree… stuff like positioning and shit will help but they are about as different as two fullbacks can get… That might have been useful with Walshy but not Selwyn

I find your response pretty strange. Regardless of styles Billy would be the best specialist fullback coach in the world. Not sure why you’ve implied “positioning and shit” isn’t hugely important despite Cobbo’s size and strength difference to Slater.

 

[Fitzy]

I find your response pretty strange. Regardless of styles Billy would be the best specialist fullback coach in the world. Not sure why you’ve implied “positioning and shit” isn’t hugely important despite Cobbo’s size and strength difference to Slater.

Bro why do you take every single comment on you as an attack.

Obviously Billy will help if he is in Qld but to say it would be a huge boost for his general attacking play I don’t think would be true. Off the ball inputs (such as positioning and shit - which if you re-read I said was important) would be great for him I completely agree with that but on the ball their play styles are so different that I just don’t think it will make much difference. Selwyn is a big boy who will likely never be chip and chasing, taking huge cut out passes half a dozen times a game, Selwyn is the bloke on the end of those cut outs who uses his size, strength and speed to try and get to the line.

I agree with you that Billy would help in a lot of areas but the areas of promise we are seeing now with his on ball areas we aren’t going to see massively improve from a week with Billy at a emerging camp or the proper squad

 

[theshed]

Bro why do you take every single comment on you as an attack.

Obviously Billy will help if he is in Qld but to say it would be a huge boost for his general attacking play I don’t think would be true. Off the ball inputs (such as positioning and shit - which if you re-read I said was important) would be great for him I completely agree with that but on the ball their play styles are so different that I just don’t think it will make much difference. Selwyn is a big boy who will likely never be chip and chasing, taking huge cut out passes half a dozen times a game, Selwyn is the bloke on the end of those cut outs who uses his size, strength and speed to try and get to the line.

I agree with you that Billy would help in a lot of areas but the areas of promise we are seeing now with his on ball areas we aren’t going to see massively improve from a week with Billy at a emerging camp or the proper squad

One of those tone lost over text moments I guess. I didn’t mean to sound like I was being defensive. Just wasn’t sure about your comment. I think Billy could help with a lot of things, as you’ve said positioning, organising the defence, support play, developing a passing game. I think Slater is smart enough to not try and turn players into a Slater clone but he could definitely share huge amounts of knowledge.

All I said was I hope Billy takes a keen interest in helping Cobbo develop as a fullback, you’ said it won’t be useful to Cobbo, and I just find that a strange conclusion to draw.

I also politely disagree that they are that different other than strength and size. Slater’s game was based on his dangerous running first and he developed the passing game later on. Everyone is entitled to their opinions though.

 

[Jedhead]

I think Cobbs will continue to develop in strength through the hips and will be even deadlier on kick returns. This and his ability to produce those carries throughout the 80 minutes is his big strength.

I think this will best be utilised at FB but think that perhaps, like a few other posters on here, he should be allowed to develop further in the ISC for another ten games or so. Then stick him on the wing outside of Staggs if Tesi is going well. The combination will put the fear of god in defending backlines and with Reynolds there to chip and pass accordingly it has the makings of our very own dynamic attack.

On another note, witnessing Ezra Mam's turn of speed over the first 50 metres in Sunday's sprint was a joy to behold. He was caught and overtaken towards the end of the dash, but it was his initial explosive dash that put him a few metres in front of everyone else that was exciting to see. I'd like to see it again as I have a suspicion he might have slightly jumped the gun. If not, he's frikkin greased lightening over the first 50 and will leave quite a few defenders clutching at air when he comes into the fold.

 

[Johnny92]

Bro why do you take every single comment on you as an attack.

Obviously Billy will help if he is in Qld but to say it would be a huge boost for his general attacking play I don’t think would be true. Off the ball inputs (such as positioning and shit - which if you re-read I said was important) would be great for him I completely agree with that but on the ball their play styles are so different that I just don’t think it will make much difference. Selwyn is a big boy who will likely never be chip and chasing, taking huge cut out passes half a dozen times a game, Selwyn is the bloke on the end of those cut outs who uses his size, strength and speed to try and get to the line.

I agree with you that Billy would help in a lot of areas but the areas of promise we are seeing now with his on ball areas we aren’t going to see massively improve from a week with Billy at a emerging camp or the proper squad

Don't want to be comparing Cobbo to GI but its abit hard not too..
Selwyn and Inglis stuff those guys have/can do can't be coached and things Billy could never do same as there are things Billy could do that bigger body like GI and Cobbo couldn't.
To really utilise Cobbo at 1 good ball play halves are key and forwards that can pop an offload.
His biggest strength doesn't need to be throwing a cut out ball to the winger because he's got the size to beat blokes to create overlaps

 

[Sproj]

Don't want to be comparing Cobbo to GI but its abit hard not too..
Selwyn and Inglis stuff those guys have/can do can't be coached and things Billy could never do same as there are things Billy could do that bigger body like GI and Cobbo couldn't.
To really utilise Cobbo at 1 good ball play halves are key and forwards that can pop an offload.
His biggest strength doesn't need to be throwing a cut out ball to the winger because he's got the size to beat blokes to create overlaps

The way Cobbo played in the GF was eerily reminiscent of a young GI in Q Cup as well. GI was an absolute beast from the moment he took to the field and Cobbs has more errors in him I think than GI did from the start but yes, the comparison is clear to all and sundry, no matter how much we all don't want to do it.