OFFICIAL Broncos Sourced Player Movement and Confirmed Signings - Locked

[Foordy]

I have to say this, good start from Kevvie ... he already has the Sydney media labeling us as arrogant ... feels like the old days

 

[pagey]

Why not. If Melbourne can afford Smith, Smith and Grant on their books.

Because the luxury of having Smith means you can have lesser value players in other positions, that is what makes him great

 

[Kooly87]

He wont get that kind of money, but at the same time if he wants out as badly as they are saying, he would have to make sacrifices. In terms of his situation and contract, his problem is he cant force us to do anything, same as we cant force him to do anything. We both have legal obligations.

He has the leverage here because we need to generate a result out of him this year, whereas he's already contractually guaranteed to get his best result out of us.

 

[IceWorks]

I have to say this, good start from Kevvie ... he already has the Sydney media labeling us as arrogant ... feels like the old days

Yes this was my thought. The tone of the response likely indicates that Brisbane, finally, have assumed some negotiating power. A refreshing change!

 

[Astro]

He has the leverage here because we need to generate a result out of him this year, whereas he's already contractually guaranteed to get his best result out of us.

Yes but we can also make him train with the rehab group and not medically clear him fit to play. Forcing him to sit on the sideline for a year. Good luck on your next contract when you have played 17 games across 4 years.

 

[1910]

Why not. If Melbourne can afford Smith, Smith and Grant on their books.

C.Smith speaks for himself he would be pushing big money but the other two wouldn't. Grant only re-signed 12 months ago- he had played two NRL games and only been in the full time squad since June. He had played 41 ISC games- Be shocked if he was more than 200k-300k.

B.Smith would be similar he signed in 2017 on a four year deal he had only played three games.

They could have got all three for 1.5 signing them when they did.

 

[Culhwch]

Yes but we can also make him train with the rehab group and not medically clear him fit to play. Forcing him to sit on the sideline for a year. Good luck on your next contract when you have played 17 games across 4 years.

Or, you know, let him play knowing he is doing so for a contact in 2022 and potentially get the best out of a bad situation...

We don't know if these numbers are true, we don't know if Bird is desperate to leave or would just do so if the opportunity was there, and likewise for Kevvie to offload him. But sure, let's be petulant children, throw the toys out of the cot, and sit a cool mill on the sidelines all year when he might actually contribute something on the field in a very meaningful way.

 

[Dazza 92]

Our best half pairing have always had at least 1 home grown guy in there, speaking of which...

Whens Dearden re-signing..?

 

[Kooly87]

Yes but we can also make him train with the rehab group and not medically clear him fit to play. Forcing him to sit on the sideline for a year. Good luck on your next contract when you have played 17 games across 4 years.

Yes, but we've also self sabotaged our salary cap by around a million dollars if we do that. He's honestly got us bent over a barrel here.

 

[Galah]

Our best half pairing have always had at least 1 home grown guy in there, speaking of which...

Whens Dearden re-signing..?

It’s got me stressed

 

[Dazza 92]

It’s got me stressed

Id stay positive for now....once Kev has a chance to speak to him im confident his new contract will be signed not long after...

 

[Astro]

Or, you know, let him play knowing he is doing so for a contact in 2022 and potentially get the best out of a bad situation...

We don't know if these numbers are true, we don't know if Bird is desperate to leave or would just do so if the opportunity was there, and likewise for Kevvie to offload him. But sure, let's be petulant children, throw the toys out of the cot, and sit a cool mill on the sidelines all year when he might actually contribute something on the field in a very meaningful way.

Obviously my comment was based on those rumors being true. And if they are true then he is a self serving brat with a shit attitude. if he is "forced" to play for a club he no longer wants to then his attitude is hardly going to improve and that is the exact attitude Kevin wants to rub out of this club, and not let it rub off onto other players.

 

[Pablo]

How about this deal? (Assuming we cannot get Grant or C Smith for 2021)
2021 - Offer Bird to Dragons in direct swap with Ben Hunt. Broncos to pay excess of Hunt's 1.2 mill salary (say $250K). Bird gets his release, Dragons get Bird and save a couple of hundred grand for next season. We are out of pocket about $250K on top of what we would have paid for Bird next year but it solves a fairly decent hole in our squad.
2022 & 2023 - Hunt's large contract now becomes our problem but Dragon's could and should be convinced to pay $250k per season for the remaining length of that ridiculous contract which means our financial commitment to Hunt would be around $950k per year for 2 years. By then we may have moved on from Milford or potentially reduced his contract. In Hunt we get a tough, experienced, representative, 80 minute hooker with a kicking game. He is also a ready-made half should we need coverage. He also has Broncos in his blood. Dragons then have around a million a year freed up to re-sign a resurgent Bird or someone else. I reckon that's not a bad deal for both clubs.

 

[broncsgoat]

How about this deal? (Assuming we cannot get Grant or C Smith for 2021)
2021 - Offer Bird to Dragons in direct swap with Ben Hunt. Broncos to pay excess of Hunt's 1.2 mill salary (say $250K). Bird gets his release, Dragons get Bird and save a couple of hundred grand for next season. We are out of pocket about $250K on top of what we would have paid for Bird next year but it solves a fairly decent hole in our squad.
2022 & 2023 - Hunt's large contract now becomes our problem but Dragon's could and should be convinced to pay $250k per season for the remaining length of that ridiculous contract which means our financial commitment to Hunt would be around $950k per year for 2 years. By then we may have moved on from Milford or potentially reduced his contract. In Hunt we get a tough, experienced, representative, 80 minute hooker with a kicking game. He is also a ready-made half should we need coverage. He also has Broncos in his blood. Dragons then have around a million a year freed up to re-sign a resurgent Bird or someone else. I reckon that's not a bad deal for both clubs.

Paying 900k for a hooker who doesnt want to play hooker...

 

[Foordy]

Yes, but we've also self sabotaged our salary cap by around a million dollars if we do that. He's honestly got us bent over a barrel here.

I disagree with that statement.

If we allow him to leave we free up a minimum of 700k (if we cover 200k, and we should only do that if Kevvie wants him to go)
if we force him to stay, he'll need to bust his ass to get a decent contract for 2022

either way, we benefit

 

[Renegade]

if Bird wants to go, he should ask for a full release of his contract. Not a single cent paid to him. I don't begrudge the guy, but you took the PO champ. You either want the cash and are happy to stay or want to go elsewhere? Choose one.

 

[Pablo]

Paying 900k for a hooker who doesnt want to play hooker...

He doesn't strike me as someone who would chuck a hissy if he was asked to play in his non-preferred position. If he is, clearly we don't want him. He can stay at the dragons and play hooker down there under Griffin.

 

[1910]

I know it a bit random but, when was the last time we had a top tier halves combination besides the pan flash of Milford and Hunt ?

Since 2007.

Lockyer and Wallace 73.6% (53 of 72 games)
Hunt and Milford 65.6%
Milford and Nikorima 60%
Wallace and Norman 53.8%
Hoffman and Hunt 53%
Prince and Wallace 35.7%

47 combinations since 2006 Grand Final. Remaining 41 have not got about nine games.