OFFICIAL David Fifita signs with the Titans

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Thanks, I've read about half so far and will finish it after, **** nose I've got time! No, you're not **** nose ! I mean, **** knows I'll have the time, probably squeeze in War And Peace !
I hope they are paying you to quarantine mate?
 
My maths tells me even with Boyd, Kahu, Macca and Milf or Bird gone we cant really afford to keep fifita long term. Something has to give to get some harder nose edge old school work horses in.

Shopping around blokes like Offa, Oates and maybe even Lodge could potentially help us there.
 
700k is too much for him, that kind of money is why our cap is stuffed.

Frizzell is a monster and even he can’t keep the dragons competitive and I doubt he’s on 700k+
 
Shopping around blokes like Offa, Oates and maybe even Lodge could potentially help us there.

I certainly agree with Offa, mainly because of the price we have him on. If it was 300-350 no problem. In that spot we need someone with a bit more brains and a bit more brawn at a good price.

Oates can have new life with a good coach, and i think Lodge can be a stable workhorse under the right coach.
 
If I was David I would take the Titans money. 10 years at 1-1.1 Million a year is stupid money, and a bad move by the titans. Dave should take it and secure his and his family's future forever.

If I was the Broncos, I would stay at 800k max. David will not win you competitions.
 
700k is too much for him, that kind of money is why our cap is stuffed.

Frizzell is a monster and even he can’t keep the dragons competitive and I doubt he’s on 700k+
If I had the choice at present I'd much rather have Frizell for 600K and tell David to walk. I'm sick of kids/managers/rival clubs holding our club to ransom. It seems every player we are due to sign or retain gets their asking price bumped up just because - this.
 
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700k is too much for him, that kind of money is why our cap is stuffed.

Frizzell is a monster and even he can’t keep the dragons competitive and I doubt he’s on 700k+

I disagree I think if the money was available every team in the competition would pay him 700k. The first 2 weeks he was the most damaging running forward in the game. He is younger and getting better - he will be the best forward in the game.
Roosters paying Crichton a million a year. Arrow just signed for 800k a year with Souths. Both better teams than broncos - Fifita is worth 700k a year.
 
Had a look on Zero Tackle and there doesn’t appear to be too many quality players coming off contract that are unsigned for next season. There are a few that stick out, obviously Grant, but also Cotric, Tamou, Foran & Elliot. However, nobody that is going to fix our issues in one season.
Somehow the Melbourne Storm, a sad reflection of how little traction the NRL has gained in Victoria, but a superbly run club it seems... can have the GOAT in Cameron Smith and his successor lining up behind him and can't even get a start, while Brisbane recruit an out of work Barista with bad habits (Seggy) and a guy that can't get a run with St George (Luke). What's going on with the recruiting and how come Melbourne have it so sorted out compared with us?
 
This kind of attitude is what we need to purge right the **** out of the club.
I want Loyalty, i want dedication to being a one club player, and that applies to both the individual player and the club showing loyalty when they are in a form slump.
The player has security knowing the club will look after them for their career, and the the club has security knowing the player wont abandon ship should the going get tough.

That kind of mutual respect and Loyalty will translate to success on the field.
Oh, how 1950s of you!

I don't expect or want loyalty first and foremost. I want performances and value for money. It's not a game, it's a job. If you expect loyalty then loyalty must be the expectation everywhere but when you trade a service for cash feelings are irrelevant. Just the end product, it is the only consideration.

You know why I feel this way?

I'll present a scenario. Player shows loyalty, takes significant unders and first game breaks his neck or some other career ending injury occurs. Sad faces all round. Three weeks later the club can't find his address, not sure how to spell his name, who? Never heard of him, oh, yeah, I remember him. Wonder what he's up to these days?

That's the reality. The club moves on and might mouth a few platitudes but they really do move on. They simply do not care because it is just a business, there is no loyalty.

A great example is Mick Crocker, shovelling sand for $22 an hour, take home. Shot knees, pain in places you shouldn't get it, the game moves on. Nik Kosef, shot knees picking up glasses and looking scarey to assist bar patrons be good.
 
Somehow the Melbourne Storm, a sad reflection of how little traction the NRL has gained in Victoria, but a superbly run club it seems... can have the GOAT in Cameron Smith and his successor lining up behind him and can't even get a start, while Brisbane recruit an out of work Barista with bad habits (Seggy) and a guy that can't get a run with St George (Luke). What's going on with the recruiting and how come Melbourne have it so sorted out compared with us?
The coach.
 
He has to take into consideration why he plays football. Money isn't everything. To a young guy who doesn't come from money it would be extraordinarily difficult to make this decision especially relying on his mum who also would put more weight on the $$$.
I think it's poor form to suggest he has bad character, this is a massive decision and a big gamble to tie yourself to the Titans long term.
 
Presumably a 10 year deal with the Titan's would need to be 20% higher than the Broncs just from a risk management perspective. I have supported both the Seagulls and the Chargers after all :) The idea is that you can only continue to be paid by an employer still in business and you can be certain Brisbane are near the top in terms of that reliability.
 
I hope they are paying you to quarantine mate?
There's some financial upside and they pay me some 3-4 grand to pay for my stay and food. I think there's a sling for inconvenience, hardship etc that's a consequence. They're not tight with the cash but if I could have avoided it I would have.
 
Somehow the Melbourne Storm, a sad reflection of how little traction the NRL has gained in Victoria, but a superbly run club it seems... can have the GOAT in Cameron Smith and his successor lining up behind him and can't even get a start, while Brisbane recruit an out of work Barista with bad habits (Seggy) and a guy that can't get a run with St George (Luke). What's going on with the recruiting and how come Melbourne have it so sorted out compared with us?
They recruit character first. They recruit winners. I wonder how many of our guys could make it through Bellamys preseason torture camp. I'm betting 1 hand would be enough to count.
 
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Oh, how 1950s of you!

I don't expect or want loyalty first and foremost. I want performances and value for money. It's not a game, it's a job. If you expect loyalty then loyalty must be the expectation everywhere but when you trade a service for cash feelings are irrelevant. Just the end product, it is the only consideration.

You know why I feel this way?

I'll present a scenario. Player shows loyalty, takes significant unders and first game breaks his neck or some other career ending injury occurs. Sad faces all round. Three weeks later the club can't find his address, not sure how to spell his name, who? Never heard of him, oh, yeah, I remember him. Wonder what he's up to these days?

That's the reality. The club moves on and might mouth a few platitudes but they really do move on. They simply do not care because it is just a business, there is no loyalty.

A great example is Mick Crocker, shovelling sand for $22 an hour, take home. Shot knees, pain in places you shouldn't get it, the game moves on. Nik Kosef, shot knees picking up glasses and looking scarey to assist bar patrons be good.
Tell that to JYY.
Webcke, Civonoceva, Parker, Thaiday, Lockyer, the list go's on and on with players who were loyal to the Broncos and took us to grand finals.
That is gone, and so are the grand finals.
It may be an oldschool mindset, but i like it, and want it back at the club.
 
Tell that to JYY.
Webcke, Civonoceva, Parker, Thaiday, Lockyer, the list go's on and on with players who were loyal to the Broncos and took us to grand finals.
That is gone, and so are the grand finals.
It may be an oldschool mindset, but i like it, and want it back at the club.

Hard to feel much loyalty when the CEO overseeing the clubs demise has parachute packed ready to bail out.

But to say we don’t have loyalty, not true not true. Look at Boyd and Milford, loyal Broncos. So loyal you can’t get rid of them.
 
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Hard to feel much loyalty when the CEO overseeing the clubs demise has parachute packed ready to bail out.
Agreed, its why a complete overhaul might be necessary.
Get back to a club where the players have pride in the jersey for more than just the paycheck, The administration put loyalty in the players and fans over spending insane money on mercenary talent.
These blokes we have right now all seem to be playing for the paycheck, not the blokes either side of them.
 
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