CRICKET General Cricket Discussion - 2023/24

[Browny]

Gee Pakistan are making this tough for themselves

 

[Browny]

Lol nek minnit

 

[Sproj]

By the way the PM’s XI has been named, no Jhye Richardson or Swepson.

Hardie and Handscomb plus Renshaw are in.

 

[holdzy]

Hope India get up tomorrow

 

[Sproj]

Is Manenti the new Steve Smith? Starts out as an ok spinner but actually turns out to be a pretty good bat.

Because he’s a pretty good bat!

 

[holdzy]

Is Manenti the new Steve Smith? Starts out as an ok spinner but actually turns out to be a pretty good bat.

Because he’s a pretty good bat!

Has Smith fallen out of the potential GOAT discussion?

 

[Sproj]

Has Smith fallen out of the potential GOAT discussion?

It is difficult because there is no discussion. Bradman and then daylight but Smith is definitely in that next level down discussion of all time next greatest.

If we are talking around greatest batsmen though across formats, in my opinion it is a two horse race - Richards and Kohli.

 

[Santa]

It is difficult because there is no discussion. Bradman and then daylight but Smith is definitely in that next level down discussion of all time next greatest.

If we are talking around greatest batsmen though across formats, in my opinion it is a two horse race - Richards and Kohli.

Tendulkar?

 

[tommy]

Tendulkar?

Was thinking Lara too. I don’t think Tendulkar and smith should be considered though, because of the ball tampering.

 

[Santa]

Was thinking Lara too. I don’t think Tendulkar and smith should be considered though, because of the ball tampering.

Wasn't that Tendulkar thing just excessive ball cleaning lol. While dodgy, probably not as bad as sandpaper...

 

[tommy]

Wasn't that Tendulkar thing just excessive ball cleaning lol. While dodgy, probably not as bad as sandpaper...

The icc issued him a ban iirc until their overlords bccI threatened to cancel an upcoming tour. He was then exonerated. Let me look for it.

 

[tommy]

Check it out. He is a tamperer. Make up your own mind.



it is also acknowledged that he was only a part time bowler, and yet in that particular test match, he was the only player from either team that could get the ball to swing.

 

[Santa]

Check it out. He is a tamperer. Make up your own mind.



it is also acknowledged that he was only a part time bowler, and yet in that particular test match, he was the only player from either team that could get the ball to swing.

Jeez never realised that!

 

[tommy]

Jeez never realised that!

Yeah bcci has been in control of cricket for a while now. Definitely something they do their best to sweep under the carpet. He’s a filthy cheat just like smith, Warner and lillee.

 

[tommy]

And most Pakistanis.

 

[tommy]

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Mike Denness and Indian cricket team incident - Wikipedia

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Public outrage, "Unofficial" Test and Sehwag's ban[edit]​

There was a huge outrage in India where protestors took to the streets and burnt effigies of Denness. The matter was raised in the Indian parliament, the popular press termed Denness a racist, and the ICC was accused of discriminating against the emerging Third World.[9]

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) threatened to call off its tour of South Africa unless Denness was replaced as match referee for the third Test, scheduled for 23-27 November at SuperSport Park, Centurion. The International Cricket Council(ICC) supported Denness[10] but the South African board sided with the BCCI's position[11] and the two teams played an "unofficial" Test instead. Denness, who was not even allowed to enter the stadium, was replaced as match referee by the South African Denis Lindsay.[12] Consequently, the ICC declared the match to be "unofficial" and instead classified it as a "friendly five-day match";[13] the Test series was thus limited to the two matches already completed, with South Africa winning 1–0.

The ICC upheld the ban on Sehwag for the subsequent Test, but overturned the bans on Tendulkar and Ganguly.[14] The subsequent England tour to India was placed in jeopardy when India picked Sehwag in the Test squad.[15] Subsequent to this development, the ICC issued a warning that any Test match with Sehwag in the Indian team would not be considered an official Test until Sehwag served his ban.[16] After negotiations with the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) and the ICC, and in the general interest of cricket, Sehwag was dropped from the team for the first Test against England.[17]

After the incident[edit]​

Mike Denness served as match referee in only two more Tests and three more One Day Internationals. These were all in the series between Pakistan and the West Indies in Sharjah, United Arab Emirates, during January and February 2002. He retired as a match referee for health reasons, and died in 2013 from cancer.

An ICC Disputes Resolution Committee hearing headed by Michael Beloff QC, the then Chairman of the ICC Code of Conduct Commission, was scheduled to hear the case on 6–7 June 2002. But the hearing was postponed a week before its scheduled date due to the ill-health and surgery plans of Denness.[18]

The Resolution Committee never met to decide on the merits of the cases of Denness and the Indian team as the BCCI decided to forgo the case in view of Denness' heart surgery.[19]

 

[Sproj]

I wonder why Dan Hughes has never had a look in at ODI, he averages 60 in the One Day cup.

 

[Sproj]

That was a stunning ball by Stoinis, yep Stoinis. I fear for how much Australia's line up might fall for with England's quicks swinging it like that.