RBY's 'Rule Changes' Revolution

[Raw Boned Youngster]

1. Drop ball rule to eliminate the ridiculous debate about whether a ball is 'propelled forward' etc [eusa_clap.gi

2. Grids on the field to assist our referees - every 2m with different colours for the 'main' lines ( half way, try line, 20m and 10m . [eusa_clap.gi

3. No kicking in the attacking 40m - kicking is the biggest negative in the game and detracts from what fans want to see - running footy. Actually I would like to see kicking reduced in all aspects of play. [eusa_clap.gi

4. I have mooted this before, but I would like to see the try scorer convert the try. If he is wounded, the opposition captain has to nominate a kicker - this would bring the 'edge of the seat' excitement back to the game. [eusa_clap.gi League isn't about watching goal kickers kick at 80% +.

 

[Kimlo]

Ignoring your annoying clap icons, here is what I think.

1. Will not work, what about when a ball is batted back in attack as part of an attacking play, will that be an "dropped ball" if it touches the floor? Some great tries have the ball hitting the ground during parts of it, IMO it just won't work, too complicated.

2. Can't see a reason to not implement this besides aesthetics.

3. No.

4. Personally I would love this and actually think it would really bring excitement to goal kicking but I just can't see it happening, would love to see it happen though!

 

[Dexter]

I would like to see tries from the bomb/kick rule modified somehow, probably by reducing the points from 4 to 3 or not getting a conversion .

If you stop kicks inside the 40 completely the threat is removed and defence becomes easier with everyone up.

 

[Raw Boned Youngster]

thanks for the reply spawn.

1. The bat back would be irrelevant because the kick wouldn't be allowed. If it happened from an 'allowed' kick and the ball hit the deck after the bat back, it would be a turn over. Do you see the bat back as an attractive part of footy?
Anyway, Russell Fairfax did it much better in '75, even if it was a defensive play then.

The reason I want this rule ( drop ball ) introduced is because so many knockons are clearly not. It has almost become drop ball. This rule would eliminate the doubt and simplify what has become a complicated game.

2. Regarding the grids, referees are asked to make so many subjective judgements with so little assistance ( and they are up against so much srutinising technology ) that they need something to inform their decisions. Surely grids are the obvious solution. Surely it will assist consistency and isn't that what we want?

3. Kicking makes ordinary football teams competitive - when you hear coaches, players and / or commentators say that the team needs to 'get to their kick' it suggests that the game has become too much of a formula.

And of course it has.
Footy by numbers.

 

[Raw Boned Youngster]

I would like to see tries from the bomb/kick rule modified somehow, probably by reducing the points from 4 to 3 or not getting a conversion .

If you stop kicks inside the 40 completely the threat is removed and defence becomes easier with everyone up.

Thanks for the thoughts Dex.
Wouldn't that reward the more creative and innovative attacking teams then?
This is my point.

The kick is far too boring and stifles footy.
Teams would have to become risk takers.

It raises the athlete versus footy player debate.
I know what I would rather and I believe the current dominance of kicking encourages the former.

 

[Coxy]

1. Drop ball rule to eliminate the ridiculous debate about whether a ball is 'propelled forward' etc [eusa_clap.gi

Nah, that's touch football, and everybody knows touch football is gay.
Unless you're only referring to accidental dropped balls vs passes that hit the deck.

2. Grids on the field to assist our referees - every 2m with different colours for the 'main' lines ( half way, try line, 20m and 10m . [eusa_clap.gi

Yuck. It'd be an absolute eyesore. Not sure if it'd help or hinder either.

3. No kicking in the attacking 40m - kicking is the biggest negative in the game and detracts from what fans want to see - running footy. Actually I would like to see kicking reduced in all aspects of play. [eusa_clap.gi

Agree something needs to be done to reduce the prevalence of kicking. I think eliminating the attacking kick is not the answer though.

IMO I'd simply implement a rule similar to Oztag. Once the ball passes the plane of the tryline, you can't score a try. It MUST be picked up in the field of play and then placed over the line. If a grubber in goal is dived on by an attacking player, all they do is earn a drop out. If a bomb goes into the in goal on the full it's a 20 metre restart regardless whether a defender catches it or not.

4. I have mooted this before, but I would like to see the try scorer convert the try. If he is wounded, the opposition captain has to nominate a kicker - this would bring the 'edge of the seat' excitement back to the game. [eusa_clap.gi League isn't about watching goal kickers kick at 80% +.

LOL, ok. Not sure why we'd need to change that, but it's a novel idea.

 

[Anonymous person]

i agree with point 1, but thats it.

ive suggested a 'dropped ball' rule instead of knock-on before, and i still believe its the best and easiest way to get the correct decision.

and by this i dont mean like touch footy where as soon as the ball hits the ground its stop the play - i mean if youre carrying the ball, get tackled and drop it, its a turnover. if you offload and it hits the ground thats fine. i would only want this applied to during a tackle. if you drop a kick backwards thats fine, if you drop a bad pass backwards thats fine - but if theres a defender with a hand on you, its a turnover.

 

[Dexter]

I would like to see tries from the bomb/kick rule modified somehow, probably by reducing the points from 4 to 3 or not getting a conversion .

If you stop kicks inside the 40 completely the threat is removed and defence becomes easier with everyone up.

Thanks for the thoughts Dex.
Wouldn't that reward the more creative and innovative attacking teams then?
This is my point.

The kick is far too boring and stifles footy.
Teams would have to become risk takers.

It raises the athlete versus footy player debate.
I know what I would rather and I believe the current dominance of kicking encourages the former.

Yeah I hear you re the kicks. It's an arguement that has to be debated, I'm sure there are a few more ideas out there as well like coxys'. Maybe restricting kicks on tackles 5 and 6, but I agree the kick is overused and boring and taking a lot of the skill out of our game.

 

[Je$ter]

1. Drop ball rule to eliminate the ridiculous debate about whether a ball is 'propelled forward' etc [eusa_clap.gi

2. Grids on the field to assist our referees - every 2m with different colours for the 'main' lines ( half way, try line, 20m and 10m . [eusa_clap.gi

3. No kicking in the attacking 40m - kicking is the biggest negative in the game and detracts from what fans want to see - running footy. Actually I would like to see kicking reduced in all aspects of play. [eusa_clap.gi

4. I have mooted this before, but I would like to see the try scorer convert the try. If he is wounded, the opposition captain has to nominate a kicker - this would bring the 'edge of the seat' excitement back to the game. [eusa_clap.gi League isn't about watching goal kickers kick at 80% +.

1. So if a clearly backward pass goes to ground it's a change over? Not a fan.

2. That would look terrible! It has merit but in reality it would be so difficult. Maybe 5 metres??

3. Mmmm I understand your PoV, but kicking is a great skill to pull off consistently well. Everyone bags Panthers cause all their tries are scored off kicks, but for Walsh or whoever else to pull those pin point kicks off under heaps of pressure is a massive skill. Anybody can kick a ball, but to actually kick it with that precision and timing between players is huge. Not to mention the amazing acrobatic skill of guys like Folau, Ferguson, Nightingale who reel those balls in.

4. Fans would hate it... imagine if it came down to a GF and your prop has to kick it from 20 in? Not going to happen.

They are some unique changes but I think there are more important rules within the game that need to be assessed.

 

[Dexter]

Keep smoking the tea leaves then RBY, I don't always agree with you but always interesting reading you point of view.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

[quote="Raw Boned Youngster":1zg26lk4]1. Drop ball rule to eliminate the ridiculous debate about whether a ball is 'propelled forward' etc [eusa_clap.gi

2. Grids on the field to assist our referees - every 2m with different colours for the 'main' lines ( half way, try line, 20m and 10m . [eusa_clap.gi

3. No kicking in the attacking 40m - kicking is the biggest negative in the game and detracts from what fans want to see - running footy. Actually I would like to see kicking reduced in all aspects of play. [eusa_clap.gi

4. I have mooted this before, but I would like to see the try scorer convert the try. If he is wounded, the opposition captain has to nominate a kicker - this would bring the 'edge of the seat' excitement back to the game. [eusa_clap.gi League isn't about watching goal kickers kick at 80% +.

1. So if a clearly backward pass goes to ground it's a change over? Not a fan.[/quote:1zg26lk4]

I think AP's alteration of RBY's suggestion is better, and actually a plausible idea