PRE-GAME [Round 10, 2026] - Broncos vs Sea Eagles

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NrlPhysio reckons that if Karps injury is less than 6-8 weeks “buy a lotto ticket”

Deine though he says is complex but there is a good example/comparison in the NFL - a bloke came back after 5 weeks. Issue will be closing the gash up to release the pressure, a lot will be down to how much pressure was needed to be released.
 
FACTHUNT said:
NrlPhysio reckons that if Karps injury is less than 6-8 weeks “buy a lotto ticket”

Deine though he says is complex but there is a good example/comparison in the NFL - a bloke came back after 5 weeks. Issue will be closing the gash up to release the pressure, a lot will be down to how much pressure was needed to be released.
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Penalty sufficient apparently...
 
Sportsbet have actually got us slight favourites against manly - 1.90/1.94 which is a surprise given our injury list.
 
Are we actually going to be able to field a full team?

We have 30 in the squad, we need 19 for field and bench (plus 2 further extras?). NRL.com has us with 12 out, but that doesn't include Staggs or Karps and Verhoeven may still be in doubt too? It does have PRiki who will be back but that's at least 13 out, maybe 14:

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So even with "just" 13 out, 30 - 13 = 17...how do we get to 19-21?? The math ain't mathing!!

Also looking at the WHO is out:

2x starting props in Haas/Jensen;
2x starting wingers in Karps/Mariner;
1x starting 2RF in Peeks;
1x starting centre in Tones;
Starting HB and captain in Reyno;

Backup HB/usual #14 in Bunt;
Backup half/usual benchie in BWalters;
Backup #9/usual benchie(?) in Mozer;
Backup back/usual benchie in Anderson;
2nd backup back/fringe benchie in Dela;
Backup forward/fringe benchie in BTK.


Hell lets see ANY other club play well even just without those particular 7 starters in the top list, let alone also not having a number of guys who would come in for those 7 were they not injured themselves!

If Verhoeven is still out, who do we use in the backline? We are out of troops...we have Arthars & Perham to fill 3 gaps, I guess we're down to Poates? We are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel in both the backs AND forwards, and Paix is the last man standing (aside from Buks) at hooker.

How we are even still competitive is beyond remarkable. The media is not giving the club anywhere near enough credit.
 
vertigo said:
Its crazy. Just give us a fair shake of possession, that's all we ask.
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Watching the other night .
Early they were so concerned about offloads the 3 men in the tackles were all up around the ball . No one taking out the runners legs . Leading to fast PTBs and giving away 6 agains . That was self inflicted .

Judging by how well they are defending in the red zone I wonder if they don`t care about metres so much , as long as the other team is not getting creating offloads and broken play ?
 
LittleDavey said:
We are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel in both the backs AND forwards, and Paix is the last man standing (aside from Buks) at hooker.
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I think Buk is injured as well isn't he?

Think 1910 indicated it in the Qcup thread

But hey "every team has to deal with injuries"
 
Big Del said:
Watching the other night .
Early they were so concerned about offloads the 3 men in the tackles were all up around the ball . No one taking out the runners legs . Leading to fast PTBs and giving away 6 agains . That was self inflicted .

Judging by how well they are defending in the red zone I wonder if they don`t care about metres so much , as long as the other team is not getting creating offloads and broken play ?
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Madge is all about keeping defensive line integrity. Meaning, no super fast line speed.

I think the theory is that when we have to defend our goal line, we have enough energy to max out the defense. Didn't work for Roosters as much, just because of the multiple sets before they got into red zone, left us depleted to start goal line defense. And Roosters attack is much better than most of the other teams we have faced.

Which makes the amount of ruck infringements even weirder. Teams usually have faster PTB than us at the best of times, so they can't be getting infringed that much when on the ground.
 
Well shit. There you go, 14 or 15 of our top 30 down (or suspended). Paix last man standing out of our 5(!!) hookers. What a disaster of a year.
 
dejan said:
Madge is all about keeping defensive line integrity. Meaning, no super fast line speed.

I think the theory is that when we have to defend our goal line, we have enough energy to max out the defense. Didn't work for Roosters as much, just because of the multiple sets before they got into red zone, left us depleted to start goal line defense. And Roosters attack is much better than most of the other teams we have faced.

Which makes the amount of ruck infringements even weirder. Teams usually have faster PTB than us at the best of times, so they can't be getting infringed that much when on the ground.
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I'm convinced we save energy for those parts of the field where it's more critical - on our goal line, or pinning the opposition back inside their 20.

I think what worked against us a bit in the Roosters game was the sheer number of outs and players out of position as a result. Poor Talty and Gos were getting belted through the middle and left on the ground, leaving gaps in the defensive line. Full strength or hell even half strength we have a lot more defensive cohesion than we did on Saturday, with fatigue compounding it all on top. Don't forget we had 3 of our starting forwards missing, and IIRC only used 2 of the forwards on the bench as well due to the other injuries to the backs + Reyno? So the guys in the middle were just out on their feet. We are simply out of troops.

Having said that, can you imagine our year this year if the 6-man bench had not been implemented...? Watch the NRL get rid of it now since it's benefitted us more than anyone lol 😂
 
As much as it sucks and man it sucks, I am excited to see Verhoeven and Poates this week as you would assume both play. Neither is ready but what else can you do? They will gain great experience.
 
LittleDavey said:
I'm convinced we save energy for those parts of the field where it's more critical - on our goal line, or pinning the opposition back inside their 20.

I think what worked against us a bit in the Roosters game was the sheer number of outs and players out of position as a result. Poor Talty and Gos were getting belted through the middle and left on the ground, leaving gaps in the defensive line. Full strength or hell even half strength we have a lot more defensive cohesion than we did on Saturday, with fatigue compounding it all on top. Don't forget we had 3 of our starting forwards missing, and IIRC only used 2 of the forwards on the bench as well due to the other injuries to the backs + Reyno? So the guys in the middle were just out on their feet. We are simply out of troops.

Having said that, can you imagine our year this year if the 6-man bench had not been implemented...? Watch the NRL get rid of it now since it's benefitted us more than anyone lol 😂
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Yeah, I agree, outside of poor individual reads and being outmanned in areas, our 20m and their 20m are 100% the most important defense structures we have.
We would literally have 0 healthy players on the bench most weeks lol

In good new, Aublix had a good stint at lock in Qcup. 2 tries. 50minutes. 150run metres. That is the best I have seen from him all year.

And at least Josh Rogers has converted to a hooker/lock/half. But him, Paix and Mason Teague (T&T currently) are it.
 
dejan said:
Madge is all about keeping defensive line integrity. Meaning, no super fast line speed.

I think the theory is that when we have to defend our goal line, we have enough energy to max out the defense. Didn't work for Roosters as much, just because of the multiple sets before they got into red zone, left us depleted to start goal line defense. And Roosters attack is much better than most of the other teams we have faced.

Which makes the amount of ruck infringements even weirder. Teams usually have faster PTB than us at the best of times, so they can't be getting infringed that much when on the ground.
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If every tackle leaves the ball runner standing then yes the PTB will be faster .
Early in the game they were not taking out the legs .

Some of us old farts grew up listening to the mantra - they can`t run without legs .
Taking out the legs is more dangerous and takes a lot more effort .Saturday night it looked like they were not prioritising the 3/4th man going low .Like the Poms back in the 80s . It was all about wrapping up the ball for offloads . Then quick PTB that the Broncos would try to slow down and get 6 again . They were their own worst enemies in that dept early .
 
Good news Reynolds will play the Broncos medical team have worked wonders.

 
Big Del said:
If every tackle leaves the ball runner standing then yes the PTB will be faster .
Early in the game they were not taking out the legs .

Some of us old farts grew up listening to the mantra - they can`t run without legs .
Taking out the legs is more dangerous and takes a lot more effort .Saturday night it looked like they were not prioritising the 3/4th man going low .Like the Poms back in the 80s . It was all about wrapping up the ball for offloads . Then quick PTB that the Broncos would try to slow down and get 6 again . They were their own worst enemies in that dept early .
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Part of the reason for this is the legs only tackles get called held instantly and you have to release while your team is retreating. They literally encourage the wrestle by taking away any advantage from a great legs and all tackle.
 
Skathen said:
Part of the reason for this is the legs only tackles get called held instantly and you have to release while your team is retreating. They literally encourage the wrestle by taking away any advantage from a great legs and all tackle.
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Or penalise it if the attacking player somehow gets injured. There is literally no benefit to a textbook good low tackle anymore so why risk it. The game is fundamentally broken.
 
Skathen said:
Part of the reason for this is the legs only tackles get called held instantly and you have to release while your team is retreating. They literally encourage the wrestle by taking away any advantage from a great legs and all tackle.
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That`s not what I`m talking about .
I`m saying the 3rd man in needs to take out the legs or a lot of post contact metres and fast PTBs whish lead to ruck infringements and offsides .

Saturday night in the 1st 20 minutes there were 3-4 men in a tackle but none doing the hard work 1 %er of taking out the legs .
Under sized starting props like Gos and Talty are gonna struggle against bigger bodies . But not even attempting to put them on the ground only makes it worse .
 
Big Del said:
That`s not what I`m talking about .
I`m saying the 3rd man in needs to take out the legs or a lot of post contact metres and fast PTBs whish lead to ruck infringements and offsides .

Saturday night in the 1st 20 minutes there were 3-4 men in a tackle but none doing the hard work 1 %er of taking out the legs .
Under sized starting props like Gos and Talty are gonna struggle against bigger bodies . But not even attempting to put them on the ground only makes it worse .
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Sorry, I made a leap from your comment.

Context: They are taught to wrestle instead of the older school 1 high 1 low, or both high, one drops into the legs.

This then leads to the first two always staying high.

When the third comes in, if the tackle is ineffective (which is often the case with small forwards like what we're trotting out at the moment) the third man in now has a decision. Hit the legs and this guy will fall while our line is still retreating (they are taught to hit the legs at the very end to do a peel off that takes up more time in the tackle). Or go high and attempt to win the tackle high and get the guy on his back.

When your first two tacklers are winning the tackle they've (largely) arrested the movement and the third man in is simply there to introduce delay.
 
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