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PRE-GAME [Round 7, 2026] - Broncos vs Tigers
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I could go into the next level of conspiracy thinking and say that last year was us paying a penance for what was to come. NRL knows where its bread is buttered so they needed to give us something that would hold us all through the next 10-20 years of getting reamed by referees, rule changes, judiciary findings etc
But I don’t know if anyone there has the amount of cognition needed to think that far ahead, let alone pull it off.
When it comes to “the neutrals”, as we know they love to see us fall, so there’s their own inherent bias at play as well.
You see it a lot because we keep getting blown out of games again lately, but so long as there’s a single call or even non-call that goes our way, regardless if we win or not, they scream blue murder and insist the comp is rigged in our favour - no matter how much you point out the cold hard stats that show we get the least penalties and 6 agains in the entire competition
But I don’t know if anyone there has the amount of cognition needed to think that far ahead, let alone pull it off.
When it comes to “the neutrals”, as we know they love to see us fall, so there’s their own inherent bias at play as well.
You see it a lot because we keep getting blown out of games again lately, but so long as there’s a single call or even non-call that goes our way, regardless if we win or not, they scream blue murder and insist the comp is rigged in our favour - no matter how much you point out the cold hard stats that show we get the least penalties and 6 agains in the entire competition
Big Pete
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I don't think there's a conspiracy against the Broncos. The Broncos problem is that they play too passively. They're still using that 2015 defence where they'll sacrifice line-speed to keep their line in tact. The issue is the opposition gets a roll on and if they put in an attacking kick the Broncos are suddenly under all sorts of pressure.
It's not sustainable.
It's frustrating but I think the biggest issue isn't so much Brisbane and how they're officiated but just the state of the game in general. We're losing the physicality, the rules keep getting tinkered with to the point that they lack common sense and there's just no flow to the game. It's back to the 2020-21 where teams just score in bunches.
If you squint hard enough, there's still some good play. However there's so many games where you just have to wait until half-time so the referee can put the whistle away and let things play out.
It's not sustainable.
It's frustrating but I think the biggest issue isn't so much Brisbane and how they're officiated but just the state of the game in general. We're losing the physicality, the rules keep getting tinkered with to the point that they lack common sense and there's just no flow to the game. It's back to the 2020-21 where teams just score in bunches.
If you squint hard enough, there's still some good play. However there's so many games where you just have to wait until half-time so the referee can put the whistle away and let things play out.
Bucking Beads
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100% agree with Big Pete about us being passive in defense. It's fixable if we want it to be which is a positive. The fitness base is there. Look out how the Wahs and Bulldogs have defended on the weekend. Plus how Penrith normally defend and That's the blue print imo.
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I don’t think there’s a conspiracy per se, but I do think we are generally refereed differently to other teams, for a myriad of reasons
And that makes us reluctant to push our luck with them, so we become passive to try and compensate or mitigate that element as much as we can.
We only don’t fall in that hole when we have most of the football by way of the opposition handing possession to us and we’re running downhill, and/or we might have a game or two where we seem to get every call for whatever reason, hence this perception from casuals that we get all the calls because that’s the one or two games of ours they watch
And that makes us reluctant to push our luck with them, so we become passive to try and compensate or mitigate that element as much as we can.
We only don’t fall in that hole when we have most of the football by way of the opposition handing possession to us and we’re running downhill, and/or we might have a game or two where we seem to get every call for whatever reason, hence this perception from casuals that we get all the calls because that’s the one or two games of ours they watch
I thought about this the other day, how we see to be going down this rugby union path of over officiating.
Imagine being a passive viewer and trying to make sense of all of these new rules:
- What the hell is a ruck infringement?
- What the hell is a disruptor?
- Why the hell is that kick there worth 7 tackles?
- How many interchanges do you get? Why doesn’t that one count? Why did the ref cross his arms fo that penalty?
I get that they’re brought in for more entertainment but I can see it being intimidating to understand what should fundamentally be a simple sport. I try and explain some rulings to my wife when she’ll sit down and watch a game with me - and I’m lucky she’s patient because I know how contrived some of the explanations sound when she asks.
In NZ we are already underdogs for the Tigers game. Even with those outs I feel we are a good chance, against the cowboys it was that 10 minute period with Patty off that was the game changer.
I may get a bit for this but I would give Rodgers a run at 6 for this, mam on the bench at best, I think Rodgers is a better defender and that bigger body, Mam is so out of form I just feel he is offering nothing and without Walsh there as the second kicking option and Mam not kicking it just limits them so much.
Really hoping Patty can get off though!
I may get a bit for this but I would give Rodgers a run at 6 for this, mam on the bench at best, I think Rodgers is a better defender and that bigger body, Mam is so out of form I just feel he is offering nothing and without Walsh there as the second kicking option and Mam not kicking it just limits them so much.
Really hoping Patty can get off though!
Big Pete
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Felt like the disruptor was brought into prevent this from happening:
Notice Latrell.
The argument was that you could tackle the offensive player in the air. However with that out of the equation they needed to do something to balance it. Ergo disruptor, but they're way too sensitive with it.
Notice Latrell.
The argument was that you could tackle the offensive player in the air. However with that out of the equation they needed to do something to balance it. Ergo disruptor, but they're way too sensitive with it.
Old Mate
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Mam does need a bit of soul searching. I don’t know if now is the time with so many outs but even then he’s not providing much anyway. His passing for the most part looks slow and off, kicking is generally very mid to poor and his running is down. No real brains behind plays either like getting the inside ball from Piaks on the last tackle. He isn’t in the form to be doing that kind of stuff, kind of don’t know if he’s even the player to do it without support from Walsh.
Bucking Beads
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We're not dropping Mam mate. It doesn't help him or our team right now to send him to QCup. Mam needs to be mature enough to get through this tough patch.
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I think more for recovery. Whatever he is carrying, its stifling him too much.
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Mam was average a couple times in defence but he scored a try that nobody else was going to and then threw that great cutout ball to Karapani. I didn’t think he was as bad as some think he was.
Shibasaki on the other hand was woeful. He usually punches his nose through the advantage line and gets us out of trouble. Friday night he didn’t do that at all and his defence was woeful. If it wasn’t for a couple of great decisions by karapani to jam there would have been at least two more tries scored on his edge.
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It's like he's trying to play structured footy and if it's not on just take the tackle or kick.
On that inside ball from Piaks he should've realised it's not on and immediately stepped back after catching it... or looking to position himself to find a get out for the play.
Break the tackle and use his speed to get back infield and line up some sort of kick.
Instead he catches it and just immediately succumbs... same thing happened in the titans game, but he tried to force the offload, which led to a try.
There was a 3rd/4th tackle play after a linebreak (probably the Mariner one)... he gets the ball down the left probably 20m out with a retreating defensive line and there was acres of space back behind the ruck that he could've attacked and looked for a quick ptb or maybe get there himself.
Instead he just keeps floating to his left ball in hand and puts in an early nothing kick that is defused by cows and lets them off the hook.
I don't know what's going through his head in that situation.
The defence is retreating and he's got men outside him running lines for him.
The last thing he should be thinking is kicking behind ... he's too close to the tryline and the defence is already moving backwards towards any kick that might go in.
Take the ball to the line for a crash ball to Shiba or Piaks or run the ball yourself... anything but kick... try to score or create a quick ptb for the next play... keep ball in hand.
He just looks to have too many thoughts going through his head and the coaches need to simplify his game way down.
Old Mate
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23 now, still young and learning but he’s got to show a bit more. He’s a competitor though so I have faith he’ll come good.
Bucking Beads
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Half the team could be carrying something at this point. It's crazy how battered we're and it's not even origin yet.
LittleDavey
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Isn't what Latrell did there already an obstruction under the rules though? He wasn't making a legitimate effort at the contest, he was only trying to get there before the ball to take out the defenders. That's an obstruction already without 'disruptor' isn't it?
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