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1910 said:
He's wasn't injured, they were waiting for it to be scuffed up so he could reverse it. Then he hits Khawaja on the head and a bit comes off the ball to be replaced.

They didn't bowl him until the 34th over.
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They are saying he wasn't injured but there is a perception he was and England are trying to hide it. Hence the comments about his pace being well down and him going off straight after.

And I know they didn't bowl him to the 34th over - I watched it.
 
Sproj said:
They are saying he wasn't injured but there is a perception he was and England are trying to hide it. Hence the comments about his pace being well down and him going off straight after.

And I know they didn't bowl him to the 34th over - I watched it.
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That's got nothing to do with waiting for the ball to be scuffed up and hoping he can reverse it.

Changing the ball would nullify that waiting; it's counterproductive to what you've just spent 34 overs waiting for.

If he injured himself in those three overs that's a possibility but I don't believe he was injured before that.

I think it was purely tactical and changing the ball would have ruined that.
 
1910 said:
That's got nothing to do with waiting for the ball to be scuffed up and hoping he can reverse it.

Changing the ball would nullify that waiting; it's counterproductive to what you've just spent 34 overs waiting for.

If he injured himself in those three overs that's a possibility but I don't believe he was injured before that.

I think it was purely tactical and changing the ball would have ruined that.
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Why wouldn`t they give him the new ball ??
Or at 10 -12 overs when the Dukes ball swings ? Nah lets give Moe and Rooty a bowl . LOL .

He is sposed to be able to blow through teams . The slow batting and making the Poms bowl more might actually be paying off ?

You are drinking the Mark Butcher Kool Aid . Wait till the ball is scuffed . What a load of rot .
 
Big Del said:
Why wouldn`t they give him the new ball ??
Or at 10 -12 overs when the Dukes ball swings ? Nah lets give Moe and Rooty a bowl . LOL .

He is sposed to be able to blow through teams . The slow batting and making the Poms bowl more might actually be paying off ?

You are drinking the Mark Butcher Kool Aid . Wait till the ball is scuffed . What a load of rot .
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I just explained why I think he didn't take the new ball.

Balls don't reverse until 35-50 overs so if you wanted reverse swing why would you give it to him after 12?

You need it scuffed to reverse swing.
 
1910 said:
That's got nothing to do with waiting for the ball to be scuffed up and hoping he can reverse it.

Changing the ball would nullify that waiting; it's counterproductive to what you've just spent 34 overs waiting for.

If he injured himself in those three overs that's a possibility but I don't believe he was injured before that.

I think it was purely tactical and changing the ball would have ruined that.
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34 overs - two hours of cricket, yep definitely don't want your strike bowler bowling at all within the first two hours of an innings given he has a lot of time to rest and come back for another spell. I have no idea how this makes sense to you.
 
Sproj said:
34 overs - two hours of cricket, yep definitely don't want your strike bowler bowling at all within the first two hours of an innings given he has a lot of time to rest and come back for another spell. I have no idea how this makes sense to you.
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Good we agree on something .

Keeping him off until 34 overs "if " he is fit to bowl is not good tactics .

The natural swing usually happens around 10 - 20 overs when the lacquer is removed . So 1st or 2nd change of bowling . "Nah hold Woody back .Let Mo on one leg at em . Then unleash Rooty We will do it with reverse later ."

Physio was with him yesterday morning . "Nothing to see here , just waiting for a bit more scuff before Woody runs through em ." What a load of rot .
 
1910 said:
I just explained why I think he didn't take the new ball.

Balls don't reverse until 35-50 overs so if you wanted reverse swing why would you give it to him after 12?

You need it scuffed to reverse swing.
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OK between the 12 when he should take the new ball and the 35 over . There is an hour and a half for him to recover , go have a shower , a massage and come back with the now scuffed and polished ball .

Why did they not try that ground breaking tactic ?
He can only bowl one spell a day ?
 
Is there any reason to hide an injury to Wood? Other than mind games?

It's not going to change their preparation for the match given its in progress.
 
Fozz said:
Is there any reason to hide an injury to Wood? Other than mind games?

It's not going to change their preparation for the match given its in progress.
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All mind games. Wood is their most intimidating bowler and has been getting results, could relax Australia knowing he is injured.
 
Intimidating yes .
Getting results , kinda . He had a cpl of real good spells in one game . Has done fck all other than that . But he`s the boogie man . LOL . Woakes has been more of a threat in recent times . And that Toungie Kid ? Where did he go ? He would have been more of a menace than Old Jimmy it seems in hind sight .
 
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