Rule changes you'd like to see

Socnorb

Socnorb

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I don't like the current interpretation of the 8 point try.

It should be if you're fouled at any point in the act of scoring a try you should be awarded 8 points.

eg. Last night. David Williams tackled Daniel Tupou before he got the ball and put it down. IMO, Williams should have still been penalised for his indiscretion.

Right now, you only really see an 8 point try if some numb skull player dives on top of the player right at the end.
Aren't the rules different for tackling the attacking player in the air?
 
Big Pete

Big Pete

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Not if you tackle them before they receive the ball as far as I know.

Which is what happened last night.
 
jarro65

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Not an onfield rule, but i'd really like to see a trade week (or something similar) set up.

Reading about players changing clubs mid-season is really starting to become a joke, and makes the NRL look so amateurish.
 
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Coxy

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I'd like to see a head bin reintroduced. Any player with suspected concussion must go to the head bin for 5 minutes to be assessed by a doctor. Teams can choose to interchange or not. If it's a foul, then obviously they get a free interchange.

It worries me how many players stay down for 30 seconds, then get up and play on. That's seriously not good.

Agree with Pete: Get rid of kick for touch from penalties. Option of a tap or kick for goal. Maybe even introduce the option of a scrum like Union has. Our scrums aren't for the same purpose, but it is an opportunity to willingly get the forwards out of play and have some extra space to work with.

Remove the torso as an option for scoring a try. Also the planting of a loose ball for a try can only occur if the ball is on the ground. If it's bouncing, you MUST catch it and control it to put it down (eg, like Michael Jennings did in the GF).

No idea how, but fix the god damn stripping rule. It's 50/50 if a player has their hand in around the arm and they pull it out, the ball comes loose, sometimes it's a penalty, sometimes not. Common sense says in that situation if a player has had their arm locked in by the ball carrier and it comes looes as they untangle, then just give the ball back and make them play it. No penalty. No scrum.
 
Morkel

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I'd like to see a head bin reintroduced. Any player with suspected concussion must go to the head bin for 5 minutes to be assessed by a doctor. Teams can choose to interchange or not. If it's a foul, then obviously they get a free interchange.

It worries me how many players stay down for 30 seconds, then get up and play on. That's seriously not good.


Agree with Pete: Get rid of kick for touch from penalties. Option of a tap or kick for goal. Maybe even introduce the option of a scrum like Union has. Our scrums aren't for the same purpose, but it is an opportunity to willingly get the forwards out of play and have some extra space to work with.

Remove the torso as an option for scoring a try. Also the planting of a loose ball for a try can only occur if the ball is on the ground. If it's bouncing, you MUST catch it and control it to put it down (eg, like Michael Jennings did in the GF).

No idea how, but fix the god damn stripping rule. It's 50/50 if a player has their hand in around the arm and they pull it out, the ball comes loose, sometimes it's a penalty, sometimes not. Common sense says in that situation if a player has had their arm locked in by the ball carrier and it comes looes as they untangle, then just give the ball back and make them play it. No penalty. No scrum.

The 5 minute concussion bin would also help immensely to stop players diving. Good rule.

As to the strip rule, in theory that's a great idea and is the same common-sense rule as the simultaneous held call / offload where they are just given the ball back to play it. I just wonder whether there will be more strips because the stripper (giggle) knows that they won't be penalised and they strip it just to slow it down. Though I guess if it's that blatant then it will be properly penalised anyway you'd assume.
 
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Coxy

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The 5 minute concussion bin would also help immensely to stop players diving. Good rule.

As to the strip rule, in theory that's a great idea and is the same common-sense rule as the simultaneous held call / offload where they are just given the ball back to play it. I just wonder whether there will be more strips because the stripper (giggle) knows that they won't be penalised and they strip it just to slow it down. Though I guess if it's that blatant then it will be properly penalised anyway you'd assume.

Yeah, if there was an obvious attempt to rake the ball out it'd still be a penalty. But in those situations where you can see their arm is in there, and the ball carrier is locking it there, no penalty. Common sense - they're both contributing.
 
Anonymous person

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- no torso groundings, only hands.
- to score a try you must have control of the ball with your hands.
- no kick for touch on minor penalties.
- get rid of "knock on/knock back" once contact has been made with defenders. if the ball comes loose its a dropped ball and hand over, unless it was an offload.
- video ref watching entire game, able to rule on everything at all times.
- if you stay down and receive treatment from a trainer you have to be subbed off. if no foul play it counts as a sub.
- get rid of the 'any contact with head is a penalty' rubbish.
- get rid of the stupid 'hand on the ball' penalty.
- bring back the shoulder charge, but have harsh penalties for any shoulder contact with the head, ie. mandatory minimum 4 week suspension regardless of how bad it is.
- golden try, but field goals/penalty goals count towards score so if no try is scored by end of golden try time, whoever has the highest score wins. if still even, draw. ie. 10-10 at fulltime, one team gets a penalty goal to go 12-10, keep playing, other team scores golden try so they win.
- coach/captain challenges. 2-3 per half, if you challenge and win it doesnt count as a challenge.
 
gordjw

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Not an onfield rule, but i'd really like to see a trade week (or something similar) set up.

Reading about players changing clubs mid-season is really starting to become a joke, and makes the NRL look so amateurish.


Soccer is the richest, possibly most professional, sport in the world, and as far as I can tell, they have transfers all year round.

I really like the AFL draft system. If you want to make sure the young talent gets spread around evenly (apparently the point of the cap), it seems like a much better way than just relying on a clearly cheatable salary cap.
From what my mates have told me, they also have edge case rules like "Father-Son", to help keep some tradition.
Drafting time in the AFL also kicks up a massive amount of media and public attention. Would be great for the NRL too.

I'd also get rid of the b.s. capped long-service discount. Starting from 5/8/10/whatever years service, get a certain % of the contract exempt, with the % increasing each year after. Importantly, don't limit the entire club to $300k discount or whatever it is now. Clubs that develop players should keep them (yes, it would have meant the storm kept the big4, but so they should).
 
gordjw

gordjw

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- no torso groundings, only hands.
- to score a try you must have control of the ball with your hands.
- no kick for touch on minor penalties.
- get rid of "knock on/knock back" once contact has been made with defenders. if the ball comes loose its a dropped ball and hand over, unless it was an offload.
- video ref watching entire game, able to rule on everything at all times.
- if you stay down and receive treatment from a trainer you have to be subbed off. if no foul play it counts as a sub.
- get rid of the 'any contact with head is a penalty' rubbish.
- get rid of the stupid 'hand on the ball' penalty.
- bring back the shoulder charge, but have harsh penalties for any shoulder contact with the head, ie. mandatory minimum 4 week suspension regardless of how bad it is.
- golden try, but field goals/penalty goals count towards score so if no try is scored by end of golden try time, whoever has the highest score wins. if still even, draw. ie. 10-10 at fulltime, one team gets a penalty goal to go 12-10, keep playing, other team scores golden try so they win.
- coach/captain challenges. 2-3 per half, if you challenge and win it doesnt count as a challenge.


Actually I'd get rid of golden point/try/overtime altogether.
The teams already had 80 minutes to sort it out, they should have gotten their shit together earlier if they really wanted the win.
 
OXY-351

OXY-351

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- golden try, but field goals/penalty goals count towards score so if no try is scored by end of golden try time, whoever has the highest score wins. if still even, draw. ie. 10-10 at fulltime, one team gets a penalty goal to go 12-10, keep playing, other team scores golden try so they win.

Agreed. Nothing more boring than seeing teams having a long range field goal shoot out for 10 minutes. Most of the time it just ends up coming down to a bit of luck. Not the way to decide a match imo. I'd rather just see a draw than a field goal shoot out.
 
Porthoz

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Soccer is the richest, possibly most professional, sport in the world, and as far as I can tell, they have transfers all year round.
No they don't. They have 2 transfer windows, one in the summer and one in the winter break. (If we're talking European soccer, that is)
 
gordjw

gordjw

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No they don't. They have 2 transfer windows, one in the summer and one in the winter break. (If we're talking European soccer, that is)

Yep, that's the one I meant.

And there you go, thanks [MENTION=2221]Porthoz[/MENTION], it just seems like a free-for-all from an outsider's perspective then!
 
Charmamba

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No they don't. They have 2 transfer windows, one in the summer and one in the winter break. (If we're talking European soccer, that is)

Fifa taught me that!
 
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subsbligh

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Actually I'd get rid of golden point/try/overtime altogether.
The teams already had 80 minutes to sort it out, they should have gotten their **** together earlier if they really wanted the win.

I like AP's golden try idea - but you can see teams still opting for field goal shoot out and defend tactic.

Or scrap it altogether is also a good idea - except for finals and State of Origin.

Or - 3 points for win, 2 for win in Golden Point, 1 for loss in Golden Point, 1 each if drawn at end of overtime. Basically, you've got 10 minutes to claim another premiership point. Who wants to dig deep?
 
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subsbligh

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1 on field referee. Double the authority does not equal double enforcement - it equals a dilution of responsibility.
 
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subsbligh

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Soccer is the richest, possibly most professional, sport in the world, and as far as I can tell, they have transfers all year round.

I really like the AFL draft system. If you want to make sure the young talent gets spread around evenly (apparently the point of the cap), it seems like a much better way than just relying on a clearly cheatable salary cap.
From what my mates have told me, they also have edge case rules like "Father-Son", to help keep some tradition.
Drafting time in the AFL also kicks up a massive amount of media and public attention. Would be great for the NRL too.

I'd also get rid of the b.s. capped long-service discount. Starting from 5/8/10/whatever years service, get a certain % of the contract exempt, with the % increasing each year after. Importantly, don't limit the entire club to $300k discount or whatever it is now. Clubs that develop players should keep them (yes, it would have meant the storm kept the big4, but so they should).

RE: Draft - wouldn't work if the NRL had centralised youth-development programs paid and run by the NRL.

Why should other teams benefit from the $ injected by one club into juniors programs in their area?
 
GCBRONCO

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I would like to see the return of the SCRUM. Not the get the forwards out of the road love ins we have now.

Would be nice but it won't happen, its an absolute joke what it has become, at times you don't even have a genuine hooker in there. Personally I would rather just see them play the ball in those instances rather then the current mess it is.
 

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