PLAYER Payne Haas Discussion

I wonder what happened that made Smith go from one of the best NRL rookies to complete shit. There were some complaints that he didn't engage the line enough, but surely that can't just be it?

Is it that he was a massive douche? Carney was a douche too, but his talent never went away.
 
Hayne in 2006?
SBW 2004?
Alex Johnston 2014?

What were their stats like.
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I wonder what happened that made Smith go from one of the best NRL rookies to complete shit. There were some complaints that he didn't engage the line enough, but surely that can't just be it?

Is it that he was a massive douche? Carney was a douche too, but his talent never went away.

Stealing the coaches car never helps too much.
 
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Jarryd Hayne - 16 Games, 17 Tries, 3.8 Avg Tackles, 16.8 Avg Runs, 161m Avg, 11 Line-Breaks, 3 Offloads. Selection for the Australian Tri-Series squad.

Alex Johnston - 18 Games, 21 Tries, 5.2 Tackles, 8.6 Avg Runs, 104.4m Avg, 35 Tackle-Breaks, 21 Line-Breaks, 6 Offloads, 2 Try-Assists.

I don't have the 2004 Big League unfortunately.
 
I don’t think I’ve ever been more impressed with a rookie than Jharal Yow Yeh. He seemed to arrive fully formed.
 
1994 was Menzies.

He had 16 in 23 games, which is still pretty good for a forward and rookie.

...That whole Manly backrow of Gartner, Kovic & Menzies were all good in their debut season...so was Elsegood.....arguably his bests season though..??
 
DCE looked so comfortable in first grade it was crazy. Especially considering he apparently hadn’t had heaps of wraps in lower grades.


2011 was such an amazing year for the NRL.

We had Lockyer’s final season.

You had DCE debut in that stacked Manly team and look like he’d played 10 seasons already.

Shaun Johnson burst on to the scene midseason and hadn’t been figured out yet. He was doing things to defence that no one had the right to do.

Benji Marshal was in the midst of his second peak.

Ben Barba was starting to rev up, showing signs of what was to come in 2012.

To top it all off the Hayne - Slater rivalry was in full effect.

I think it was my favourite season that didn’t include bronco success.
 
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DCE looked so comfortable in first grade it was crazy. Especially considering he apparently hadn’t had heaps of wraps in lower grades.


2011 was such an amazing year for the NRL.

We had Lockyer’s final season.

You had DCE debut in that stacked Manly team and look like he’d played 10 seasons already.

Shaun Johnson burst on to the scene midseason and hadn’t been figured out yet. He was doing things to defence that no one had the right to do.

Benji Marshal was in the midst of his second peak.

Ben Barba was starting to rev up, showing signs of what was to come in 2012.

To top it all off the Hayne - Slater rivalry was in full effect.

I think it was my favourite season that didn’t include bronco success.
Another what if year. If it were not for beale's knee, who knows?

In saying that, lockyer's last touch to be kicking a field goal to win the broncos a game felt pretty fitting.
 
Another what if year. If it were not for beale's knee, who knows?

In saying that, lockyer's last touch to be kicking a field goal to win the broncos a game felt pretty fitting.
I was praying that he’d stick around for one more after that.
 
Most meters by an NRL forward under 21 in a single season.

2019 (19)- Haas 3166
2001 (20)- O'Meley 2960
2000 (20)- Hindmarsh 2922
2000 (20)- Bailey 2864
1999 (19)- Vella 2853
2009- (20)- Tolman 2494
2006 (20)- Douglas 2432
2010 (20)- Packer 2401
2012 (20) - Papalii 2378
2001 (20)- Perry 2320
2007 (20)- Rapira 2304
2006 (20)- Williams 2277
2018 (20)- Murray 2173

Gone well past Ogre.
 
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DCE looked so comfortable in first grade it was crazy. Especially considering he apparently hadn’t had heaps of wraps in lower grades.
I dunno, DCE had been hyped at lower grades for a while. I remember hearing about him in the mid-late 00's before he had even made his Q Cup debut. Then he won POTY/RPOTY in his debut season.
 
I dunno, DCE had been hyped at lower grades for a while. I remember hearing about him in the mid-late 00's before he had even made his Q Cup debut. Then he won POTY/RPOTY in his debut season.

Was the Colt Player of the Year in 2007, then played 20s for Manly from 2008-09 and made the Team of the Year in 2009. Then in 2010 he won the Courier Mail Medal (PotY) with the Sunshine Coast Falcons.

Didn't have the wraps on him like Sandow but he wasn't exactly an unknown as you said.

It's been 8 years, but from memory it just seemed like he kept getting better as the season wore on. Started off quiet, but worked on his combinations and by the end point he became a focal point of the attack. He threatened to spoil Lockyer's party at Suncorp, only to do the Broncos in during the semis.
 
Noticed Haas is in the top 10 running metres out of all NRL players for season 2019 despite missing the opening month of footy and making his Origin debut.

Not bloody bad for a guy playing in a position that mere mortals don’t mature into until at least mid 20’s.

He is leaps ahead of his age on the field.
 
Noticed Haas is in the top 10 running metres out of all NRL players for season 2019 despite missing the opening month of footy and making his Origin debut.

Not bloody bad for a guy playing in a position that mere mortals don’t mature into until at least mid 20’s.

He is leaps ahead of his age on the field.
He also didn't eat for a month.
 

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