[Round 19, 2021] Panthers vs Broncos

[Accept]

Lol, love these arguments over Croft and Kelly. Only fans of a garbage team would argue the differences between two plodders such as these two.

It won't make a difference who is steering the team around this weekend as they are unlikely to trouble the scorers. They can't even rely on an intercept try because Coates isn't playing. I'm anticipating a scoreline of 40 something-zip.

 

[Huge]

Yeah, he didn't let in 5 tries.

Just reviewed the match. Croft didn't let ANY tries in.

 

[ZTop]

Just reviewed the match. Croft didn't let ANY tries in.

If you can't see his defence was the reason tigpies scored down that edge you are deluded

 

[Broncapz]

Just reviewed the match. Croft didn't let ANY tries in.

 

[Huge]

If you can't see his defence was the reason tigpies scored down that edge you are deluded

No. Prove it. Link the video. Otherwise, you're wrong.

 

[Sproj]

No. Prove it. Link the video. Otherwise, you're wrong.

Seriously, just let it go. You see it one way others see it differently, that’s fine.

 

[Huge]

Seriously, just let it go. You see it one way others see it differently, that’s fine.

No. If it's cool to have lengthy debates over players wages/contracts and not having any idea whatsoever what the values are, it's okay to disprove lies and exaggeration. At least there's evidence we can all see.

 

[Sproj]

No. If it's cool to have lengthy debates over players wages/contracts and not having any idea whatsoever what the values are, it's okay to disprove lies and exaggeration. At least there's evidence we can all see.

The difference is, you talk down to people who disagree with you and totally ignore or shout down evidence to the contrary (like Unbreakable’s) of whatever opinion you convince yourself is true. This does not lead to good discussion and just chews up thread space with people having a go at each other.

 

[Huge]

The difference is, you talk down to people who disagree with you and totally ignore or shout down evidence to the contrary (like Unbreakable’s) of whatever opinion you convince yourself is true. This does not lead to good discussion and just chews up thread space with people having a go at each other.

Hard to shout in writing. Never spoke down to anyone. You just want an echo chamber. I don't. I'm also going to kick and scream whenever I see and hear injustice. Plain lies also shit me. Like blaming Croft for Farnworths ineptitude or claiming Isaako's braindead kickoff directly lead to a try.

 

[Sproj]

Hard to shout in writing. Never spoke down to anyone. You just want an echo chamber. I don't. I'm also going to kick and scream whenever I see and hear injustice. Plain lies also shit me. Like blaming Croft for Farnworths ineptitude or claiming Isaako's braindead kickoff directly lead to a try.

Look that’s your choice and honestly I don’t really care if you want to push an agenda, everyone does but can you try and keep it to one thread?

 

[Huge]

Look that’s your choice and honestly I don’t really care if you want to push an agenda, everyone does but can you try and keep it to one thread?

No. I'll post where I like, as usual, as I have done for 15 or 20 years. I don't have an agenda, just a code to live by. You, on the other hand have clear agendas concerning certain players. Mind you, I admit I wanted Milford gone years and years ago but now that he's history I seldom think of him.

 

[Sproj]

No. I'll post where I like, as usual, as I have done for 15 or 20 years. I don't have an agenda, just a code to live by. You, on the other hand have clear agendas concerning certain players. Mind you, I admit I wanted Milford gone years and years ago but now that he's history I seldom think of him.

Obviously I am talking about this argument about Croft and Isaako, you have been carrying this one argument on in two different threads, just keep this argument to one thread.

 

[Mustafur]

Croft 2021 89.7% tackle efficiency
Kelly..............89.2% ( only 3 games so...)
Gamble .....86.8%
Hunt..............82.6%
Milford.........79.8%

Croft 2020 90.5%
Croft 2019 89.5 %

He might not be superior but his stats say he is.

There is alot more to defence then just the tackle, running out of your line and creating a hole so that the other team can slice right through comes to mind,.

 

[theshed]

No. I'll post where I like, as usual, as I have done for 15 or 20 years. I don't have an agenda, just a code to live by. You, on the other hand have clear agendas concerning certain players. Mind you, I admit I wanted Milford gone years and years ago but now that he's history I seldom think of him.

Let’s sit the argument regarding Croft to the side for a moment. Can you at least admit that tackle efficiency stats alone don’t determine whether a player is a good defender or not?

 

[broncsgoat]

Let’s sit the argument regarding Croft to the side for a moment. Can you at least admit that tackle efficiency stats alone don’t determine whether a player is a good defender or not?

Impossible to comprehend

 

[Mr Fourex]

I still struggle to really give 2 ***** about a halfback's defence.

If he isn't kicking well......organising well.....ball playing well.....attacking well
then he's useless to me.

Useless.......meet Brodie Croft.

 

[Huge]

Let’s sit the argument regarding Croft to the side for a moment. Can you at least admit that tackle efficiency stats alone don’t determine whether a player is a good defender or not?

Yes. That is correct.

 

[Huge]

There is alot more to defence then just the tackle, running out of your line and creating a hole so that the other team can slice right through comes to mind,.

Good thing Croft did not do that, hey?