Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2026
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theshed
Just a Game
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This is bigger news than re-signing Haas
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I wasn't suggesting it would be identical.
Something like identifying the top 30? then paying them on top of what clubs pay them.
Just spitballing here, certainly haven't put any thought into the ripple effect that could cause.
Interesting answer to that last part of your post though.
Big Del
State of Origin Rep
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OK ,,, lets add that variable to the equation
Ummm ,, lets do some NRL algebra ?
7.8 mil in Oz = 3.9 after tax - 10 % for his manager and 20 % for the accountants . LOL .
Yep couldn't play NRL again until the deal he signed 9 months earlier is over- end of 2012 and he was back 2013.
Not sure why it keeps being said you can't ban people.
If he actually ever plays a game lol Ciraldo will probably give him a run during the trials , realise how poor he is and he’ll play NSW cup for the rest of the year.
Fletcher should really buy a lottery ticket just for the fact the Dogs actually signed him. Even if it’s on a minimal contract, it’s surprising any club signed him, especially them. He’s not what they need at all. I really hope this perfume business grows because he definitely can’t rely on footy bringing him the money.
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I think it's something NRL could look at... but it would have to be an NRL based top 30/50 or something, otherwise the international game would be impacted.
Players like Api would choose to represent the Kangaroos instead of Fiji, hoping to get one of those Top 30 centralised contracts.... but it's also not feasible for the NRL to stump up cash for every nations Top 10/30, etc. because then players would be choosing to represent whoever can give them a centralised contract paid for by the NRL.
Using the Payne situation it could be something like R360 trying to poach Payne for $3m/yr for 2 years, so broncos put forward to match it, but only keep his nominal value in the salary cap, say $1.2m-$1.5m, NRL contract the rest as a top 30 player and then broncos pay a tax on the surplus or something as well.
You'd need to have that last part in there, otherwise a team like broncos are putting Patty, Reece, Payne, etc. forward for these centralised contracts as top players and able to hoard them by only paying their nominal values under the cap... but it also means we don't have to pay Payne $3m under the cap to keep him in the comp... NRL will also want to keep players like Payne in the comp, but in a situation like Payne's there's no team in the comp that can pay him $3m.
You'd also have to limit it to external competitions trying to poach them... can't have us or rorters hoarding these players, because dogs, raiders, wahs, etc. are trying to poach them and we can't afford the increasing salaries.
Could also have the nominal value continue to increase inline with the salary cap like a rachet clause... if that ends up exceeding the original then it all ends up under the cap anyway.
Yeah, you could do that, but the cricket system is the contracted 20-24 are paid for by CA and their states don't pay them and there are triggers of increases if you play six ODI or one Test so they're constantly going up.
They range from 3 million to 400k and average is nearly million. It's big money and it's tied to revenue so it's in the interest of the players to play good cricket and pack out the world.
Side note: That’s still the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. lol You would never see that again, a player will just ask to be released and communicate with the club, not this guy, he secretly packed his bags and flew to France lol I’ll never forget that and I understand why some dogs fans haven’t forgotten about it either.
Isaac Moses- that seems like a lot of work; just ring the CEO and say not coming in ever again.
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just playing devils advocate, but wasn't that ban just basically the conditions of a release from his existing contract
Bucking Beads
International Captain
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We are not releasing Payne early. Ffs we're going to have a crack at going back to back.
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Nailed it.
Big Del
State of Origin Rep
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You`ve got a point about the tax minimisation and investment angle .
Money makes money if played right .
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Depends on the reason for the ban.
If it's because someone off contract leaves and gets banned because they took their services elsewhere then it's a problem.
If it's because someone broke a contract then it's probably legitimate.
MrTickyMcG
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It’s not quite the sun…. but it’s a start
leish107
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There's a lot of uncertainty regarding R360 which may sway Payne in the Broncos favour. There is extreme skepticism about whether it will even get off the ground, let alone be successful as it's solely dependant on private investors. Yes, your contract on paper may be worth $2 million US per season, but if the competition folds after two seasons, then where does that leave you? Particularly for someone who is only 25 and carries the responsibility of providing for his family.
The integrity and standard of the comp will also be questioned - just look at Cam Smith and his Liv golf performances. He was crushing the PGA tour and now hasn't even won an individual LIV golf title since 2023 (and nobody cares who wins them - the PGA majors still reign supreme). There is also no option for r360 players to play international rugby as the national unions have stated that
participation will make them ineligible for international selection.
So Payne needs to decide if he's had enough of being a competitor and can be content with just getting a pay cheque - which I won't criticise him for as he's worked his arse off for the Broncos.
If he does sign, there is also serious doubt as to whether the NRL's ban threat would hold up on court (due to restrain of trade). So he'll be playing for us next season regardless of what he decides.
The integrity and standard of the comp will also be questioned - just look at Cam Smith and his Liv golf performances. He was crushing the PGA tour and now hasn't even won an individual LIV golf title since 2023 (and nobody cares who wins them - the PGA majors still reign supreme). There is also no option for r360 players to play international rugby as the national unions have stated that
participation will make them ineligible for international selection.
So Payne needs to decide if he's had enough of being a competitor and can be content with just getting a pay cheque - which I won't criticise him for as he's worked his arse off for the Broncos.
If he does sign, there is also serious doubt as to whether the NRL's ban threat would hold up on court (due to restrain of trade). So he'll be playing for us next season regardless of what he decides.
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I think there’s a difference between a player who was under contract (and still under contract for that period) and a free agent.
