Ashley Klein is a corrupt dud

I still find it insane that there are people that think it's completely acceptable for a gambling addict to work as a ref that can influence games.

If he was in your business, you would just blindly trust him? Insane, absolutely insane 😂
There is no rugby league if we go by this logic. Every single player can influence games if they want and there is a lot of gambling addicts in the nrl.
 
I think it is just how much fans have come to accept the mediocrity, bias, corruptness, ineptness and unprofessionalism of league that this, which is a massive issue, seems like a non-event to them.

For those of us who would still like some semblance of professionalism just cannot believe this has been deemed ok because no other actual professional sport in the world would even consider allowing a guy like this to ref anymore, especially all the big games.

And if you support the guy because he seems to have overcome an addiction, that's genuinely wonderful. I think it is great if he's overcome it as well and I love it when people overcome vices / addictions because I've had to do it as well. Doesn't mean I support a person working in the industry they have a history of addiction with even if in a supposed different area. The BWS / Dan Murphy's analogy is a pretty good one.

Its a terrible look because its a terrible decision to let him continue to ref all this time, especially so many big games. There is always going to be that question mark hanging over him and his results, rightly or wrongly, that's just how it is.
 
There is no rugby league if we go by this logic. Every single player can influence games if they want and there is a lot of gambling addicts in the nrl.

I reckon I could convince quite a few on here that Broncos players are throwing games atm.

We should check their betting accounts, not to mention anyone they associate with.
 
I reckon I could convince quite a few on here that Broncos players are throwing games atm.

We should check their betting accounts, not to mention anyone they associate with.
Nah they are just shit 🤣🤣

I think the same sometimes. How could you play like that 1 week and be world beaters a month before.

Rugby League is hard. Hard to put your head in that spot every week
 
For those of us who would still like some semblance of professionalism just cannot believe this has been deemed ok because no other actual professional sport in the world would even consider allowing a guy like this to ref anymore, especially all the big games.

We all know this will be the ultimate outcome but it may take a little time to get there.

Not because every fan doesn't want him gone, but because the NRL are trying to manage the perception of their incompetency. They sack him today and the lawyers are queuing up.

He will stand down soon imo and they will shuffle him into a desk job out the back - which is what they should have done years ago.

I haven't read anything from anyone "supporting" him. He's a crap ref.
 
We all know this will be the ultimate outcome but it may take a little time to get there.

Not because every fan doesn't want him gone, but because the NRL are trying to manage the perception of their incompetency. The sack him today and the lawyers are queuing up.

He will stand down soon imo and they will shuffle him into a desk job out the back - which is what they should have done years ago.

I haven't read anything from anyone 'supporting' him.

Kind of makes it hard to keep him on for a hugely consequential game in just 4 days.
 
We all know this will be the ultimate outcome but it may take a little time to get there.

Not because every fan doesn't want it to, but because the NRL are trying to manage the perception of their incompetency. The sack him today and the lawyers are queuing up.

He will stand down soon imo and they will shuffle him into a desk job out the back - which is what they should have done years ago.
The AFL allowed it. They were never going to sack their umpire who had an affiliation with sportsbet for horse racing. This is just anti rugby league bullshit
 
By all reports his gambling addiction was years ago. He's put himself on a register that bans him from all online/phone gambling.

He could always do walk-ins but given he's a well known figure, it's fairly risky.

If the NRL checked his betting accounts/bank statements and found nothing, they don't have cause to sack him. There isn't anything in the rules that says referees can't gamble on other sports.

If he's no longer gambling and there is nothing in his history that shows he has bet on any NRL games, I don't see much issue in him staying employed.

It's entirely possible for addicts to only have a particular vice and it's entirely possible for addicts to get help and put that shit behind them.

I have a bridge to sell you.

Klein probably had hair then. So you can look different.
 
The AFL allowed it. They were never going to sack their umpire who had an affiliation with sportsbet for horse racing. This is just anti rugby league bullshit

The AFL is jumping off a cliff, lets go!

NRL could just aim to be better. I dunno, tough concept I guess from someone who supports mediocre week in week out.
 
Administrators kinda have to allow it unless there's evidence of wrongdoing.

Gambling isn't really the issue here - no one would care if it was an online casino, pokies, or if he was punting on European handball at 3am every morning.

Influencing game outcomes isn't really the issue either - players and coaches can easily do that. We could go down all sorts of rabbit holes on the personal conversations they have with friends and family. AFL and NRL players hang out together regularly, of course there's a risk they're giving each other insights into team news, tactics etc.

Debt isn't really the issue - I'm sure there are plenty involved in the sport who have financial debts, be it credit cards, poor investments, or whatever.

That only really leaves addiction - which could be anything from sleeping pills to online shopping. Look how much time some athletes spend online gaming. This is on the clubs to have the right identification processes and support services in place.

I'm not onboard with anything that just blanket bans anyone involved in NRL from doing things the average person can legally do. The only (reasonably fair) solution I can come up with would be contractual clauses that prohibit them from betting on ball sports in Australia. If they want to throw money on the football world cup, horse racing in Japan, or a poker table then go for it.

You could put that contract in front of players, coaches and officials, I just don't know how far you go with physios, dietitians, board members and other club employees - very slippery slope.

At a minimum this whole saga should ten-fold increase the monitoring and oversight of players/officials betting accounts. They should already be scaling up the AI used to detect that nowadays anyway.

If the argument is about the extent of the investigation, competency of the NRL etc that's an entirely different debate and thread.
 
Well Klein having a massive gambling problem certainly explains a few things in my mind.

Seriously though the NRL should have sidelined him years ago. A code that is heavily sponsored by the gambling industry has as their top ref a guy with a serious gambling problem. What could possibly go wrong?
 
The AFL is jumping off a cliff, lets go!

NRL could just aim to be better. I dunno, tough concept I guess from someone who supports mediocre week in week out.
Was I replying to you or your view?

Get out of your feelings. You are being a baby.

The irony is not dead on me either.
 
Have you actually read the thread? There’s been some really good discussion from multiple angles. Your post looks a little silly.

Take a step back and see who looks a little silly .
Lucky thing we have a bauxite mine in Qld I reckon .
 
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